Kendrick Says It's Time To Ask Questions

[IanB]

As usual, I agree with Brian.

Some folk here though are buddybuddy with our CEO, and that's not such a great thing if you want change. Who's going to post on here that PF must go etc etc etc then chat to him in the bar after work?

[brian green]

Its the MON syndrome Ian.   Make lots of friends because friends protect you whether you deserve to be protected or not.

[Witton Warrior]

I have though about this Kendrick initiative and I smell a rodent.  I think Randy and Faulkner are scared witless at the prospect of having to find another manager.  Faulkner has gone through his Readers Digest Business Management Guide and re read the chapter on "how to avoid things happening you don't want to happen" and he has put a felt pen highlighter through the words "be proactive".  What he dreads happening is another Bolton.   I bet he has nightmares about that game.   He likes to think the fans are manipulable but when their anger shows he runs for cover.   So how does he prevent another Bolton eruption of spontaneous anger?   He gets some sort of fan forum set up to dissipate the naked anger.   A local newspaper and a local journalist could appear to sow the seeds of the idea.

As for the concept of a body of fans being consulted by the board I think it is a non starter because, as I posted elsewhere it is all about leopards and spots.   We will not change the fact that the club and the fans are being battered by a perfect storm generated by an owner who has lost interest, a chief executive who would need surgery to get a football idea into his head and a manager who is now reduced to a one item agenda of damage limitation to save his career.

With you for most of the first para Brian - said as much myself in an earlier thread.
If this is an insider plot it could backfire when the fans who try the reasonable rapport path discover it is a ruse they will have them turn as well.

Your reasons for it being a non-starter (Lerner disinterest etc) in last para is frighteningly accurate but some of us want to try and work with them.
Not sure what the alternatives, at this stage of the season, for protest my be? The Season Ticket boycott is months away; not turning up pointless as we are still counted; booing seems churlish; protests and marches outside the ground make us look numpties etc etc

[Witton Warrior]

As usual, I agree with Brian.

Some folk here though are buddybuddy with our CEO, and that's not such a great thing if you want change. Who's going to post on here that PF must go etc etc etc then chat to him in the bar after work?

I agree with Brian in the most part but want to see something put directly to the people who run this club. Then let rip.

I am never likely to be drinking with our CEO unless he's paying of course! Trouble is I get argumentative when in my cups ;-)

[pauliewalnuts]

I have a sneaking suspicion that When Randy sells up he will have made a very tidy amount of money out of us...

I don't see how anyone can possibly suspect that.

Have you seen how much he has had to inject into the club? The loans he has written off?

[pauliewalnuts]

As usual, I agree with Brian.

Some folk here though are buddybuddy with our CEO, and that's not such a great thing if you want change. Who's going to post on here that PF must go etc etc etc then chat to him in the bar after work?

Forgive me if I am wrong, Ian, but surely it wasn't too long ago you were taking every opportunity to get "buddybuddy" with the leadership yourself.

Just as someone else in the recent posts of this thread was, too.

Short memories.

[Clampy]

Kozak wouldn't have been on much at Lazio. He was their third choice striker and Lotito is notoriously tight.

He was also their top scorer in the Europa League. What do you reckon we are paying him then?

30k at most. I'd guess at 20k though, purely because I don't think Lazio would've been paying him very much.

I reckon that we're paying him more than £20k a week otherwise he would have stayed where he was. But i'm guessing, just like you are.

[olaftab]

I have though about this Kendrick initiative and I smell a rodent.  I think Randy and Faulkner are scared witless at the prospect of having to find another manager.  Faulkner has gone through his Readers Digest Business Management Guide and re read the chapter on "how to avoid things happening you don't want to happen" and he has put a felt pen highlighter through the words "be proactive".  What he dreads happening is another Bolton.   I bet he has nightmares about that game.   He likes to think the fans are manipulable but when their anger shows he runs for cover.   So how does he prevent another Bolton eruption of spontaneous anger?   He gets some sort of fan forum set up to dissipate the naked anger.   A local newspaper and a local journalist could appear to sow the seeds of the idea.

As for the concept of a body of fans being consulted by the board I think it is a non starter because, as I posted elsewhere it is all about leopards and spots.   We will not change the fact that the club and the fans are being battered by a perfect storm generated by an owner who has lost interest, a chief executive who would need surgery to get a football idea into his head and a manager who is now reduced to a one item agenda of damage limitation to save his career.

You do cynicism very well. Do you have any other modes?

[Fergal]

I have a sneaking suspicion that When Randy sells up he will have made a very tidy amount of money out of us...

I don't see how anyone can possibly suspect that.

Have you seen how much he has had to inject into the club? The loans he has written off?

Loans to himself.  I wonder how much he has taken out in wages and management fees.

[brian green]

My own personal opinion is that Heroes and Villains carries as much clout as any fan group sitting around a table. With my new phone I follow H and V most of the time and I never cease to be amazed at the level of articulation, passion and sheer common sense which comes from these threads.   You can see the fingerprints of H and V all over newspaper articles and broadcasts.   The one the other day about Ron Vlaar's importance to the team was lifted wholesale by the Daily Mirror.   The players read what gets posted on here and so probably do most of the staff at VP.

Thus I say to those of you who do want to use the moment to make overdue complaint to the powers that be at Villa, Teddy Roosevelt's maxim Walk softly and carry a big stick would seem good advice.   The walking softly being the fan meetings with the club but the big stick is the crowd when they have had enough.

[dave.woodhall]

I have a sneaking suspicion that When Randy sells up he will have made a very tidy amount of money out of us...

I don't see how anyone can possibly suspect that.

Have you seen how much he has had to inject into the club? The loans he has written off?

Loans to himself.  I wonder how much he has taken out in wages and management fees.

You've been told more times than I can remember. Find out for yourself from the published accounts and let us know.

[olaftab]

I have a sneaking suspicion that When Randy sells up he will have made a very tidy amount of money out of us...

I don't see how anyone can possibly suspect that.

Have you seen how much he has had to inject into the club? The loans he has written off?

Loans to himself.  I wonder how much he has taken out in wages and management fees.

Remember he operated a credit card company and as far as I know credit card companies charge everything to the end user. That means the retailer and the the card holder. In our case the club and fans represent those two parties.

[brian green]

I am deeply cynical about most things if not everything.   I feel it is more honest to write the way I genuinely feel than to seek approval by couching my observations any other way.

[Irish villain]

I am deeply cynical about most things if not everything.   I feel it is more honest to write the way I genuinely feel than to seek approval by couching my observations any other way.

Don't change, I always look out for your posts.

[Fergal]

I have a sneaking suspicion that When Randy sells up he will have made a very tidy amount of money out of us...

I don't see how anyone can possibly suspect that.

Have you seen how much he has had to inject into the club? The loans he has written off?

Loans to himself.  I wonder how much he has taken out in wages and management fees.

You've been told more times than I can remember. Find out for yourself from the published accounts and let us know.

I wouldn't know where to look, but he is either a very astute business man or as inept at finance as he is at running a football club.