Kendrick Says It's Time To Ask Questions

[andrew08]

The cynic in me says that it doesn't really make any difference who the manager is provided they have experience of professional footy and an understanding of coaching. It's all about money.
The emergence of Man City killed us when they took our two best players. After that Randy was unable to out spend the others into 4th. He is out of his depth against the rest of the Premier Leagues big clubs. The owners of Everton, Spurs and Newcastle regularly run rings round us off the pitch in commercial terms and in recruitment. Should Everton really appeal more to a Wigan manager than us?

Take away Randy's money then what does he bring to the table? Less than a Doug/Stride combo I'd say.

The above said, although the team is everything, I can't help but like Randy even though I know little about him. The Acorns thing alone makes everything else irrelevant really. That is a more important legacy than footy. I get the feeling with Randy that he has one of those moral compasses that people born into wealth can afford to have, and there is nothing wrong with that, but footy is a ruthless industry that requires sometimes spiteful decision making. Perhaps it's just not his bag.

[Tiny Arsetrumpet]

I'd like to know David Woodhall's thoughts. He tends to have his finger on the pulse of Villa fans everywhere. Personally, I'll be guided by him. If he thinks we should all band together to put a little bit of pressure on the board, then I think that's what we should do. If he believes it's best for the club to give Paul Lambert more time, then I'll fully support that stance, too.

Come on admit that you are Dave Woodhall?

I was wondering what happened to him.

Hahaha. I can see why you found that amusing. But please allow me to explain.

For all my life I've been a deeply religious man who has sought the guidance of our good book and from those that have dedicated their lives to understanding it fully. As a result, I find my life to be very fulfilling and very simple knowing that I had walked the righteous path set out before me.

Similarly, I seek guidance as to how best to set right our grand club. Whereas a congregation won't enter into debate amongst itself (although I have heard the odd blasphemous comment outside of mass that can be humorous if tempered with the knowledge that we will be forgiven), it tends to be led by one man. And I believe the same should be true of our support base. In my years as an Aston Villa supporter, it's become clear that Mr.Woodhall has a balanced perspective that isn't easy to come by. He seems to know when to calm his congregation and when to administer a sterner hand.

And I respect that.

I do apologise for taking up so much space on these pages since joining.

PS...I also offer my humblest apologies for my internet name. My son (who isn't as guided by the light as I) set all this up for me and, clearly, has a different sense of humour to what I would have expected of him.

With all due respect to your religious beliefs, IMHO anyone who believes in God will believe anything an authority figure tells them....

Sir, a shall not partake in stheological sabre-rattling with you although I respect your opinion and your right to have that opinion.

I have to say that I was rather taken, as many seem to be, with Mr.Cheltenhamlion's post. Bravo to you, sir.

I also found myself agreeing rather emphatically with much of what Mr.Mazrim kindly proffered.

I have waited far too long, it would seem, to allow myself to be exposed to such eloquence. What must one do from such a point in time to get such thinkers together with the influence and persuasive power of people like Mr.Woodhall in order to charge the masses with just the right amount of energy to affect a positive change for our club?

[eastie]

Of me lambert is the same as moyes - ok at a club of a certain size but totally out of their depth at a bigger club .

[pauliewalnuts]

I have waited far too long, it would seem, to allow myself to be exposed to such eloquence. What must one do from such a point in time to get such thinkers together with the influence and persuasive power of people like Mr.Woodhall in order to charge the masses with just the right amount of energy to affect a positive change for our club?

Just a note - it sounds quite a lot like you're taking the piss.

Just so you know, we've noticed.

[pauliewalnuts]

I doubt the players are earning peanuts though. It might be what you want to think, but it's not what I think.

Paying 15 - 20 grand a week nowadays in the premier league is just that - peanuts.

Where have you got those figures from or are you plucking them out the air to suit your own argument?

Regardless of the actual figures, it's hard not to imagine Westwood, Weimann, Lowton, Bacuna, Sylla etc are going to be low wages, relative to the rest of the PL.

The club keep telling us we need to cut the wage bill. That is a main reason we are buying players from the lower leagues.

Westwood, Weimann and Lowton all signed new, improved contracts in the summer. I doubt any are are on less than 25k.
I'd imagine the main reason we're buying players from the lower leagues is they're worth taking a chance on and Lambert thinks they can develop.

I would bet everything I own the likes of Lowton and Westwood are on nothing like 25k a week. Nothing like that much. Taking someone from Crewe, on the wages that move would imply, then bumping them up to over 25k a week is the sort of money wasting that got us in this mess in the first place.

Really? You don't think wages play a massive part? They've as good as told us they do.

[Monty]

I have waited far too long, it would seem, to allow myself to be exposed to such eloquence. What must one do from such a point in time to get such thinkers together with the influence and persuasive power of people like Mr.Woodhall in order to charge the masses with just the right amount of energy to affect a positive change for our club?

Just a note - it sounds quite a lot like you're taking the piss.

Just so you know, we've noticed.

And it should be 'effect a positive change', not 'affect'. I think 'affecting change' is pretty much what the club is doing at the moment.

[Tiny Arsetrumpet]

I have waited far too long, it would seem, to allow myself to be exposed to such eloquence. What must one do from such a point in time to get such thinkers together with the influence and persuasive power of people like Mr.Woodhall in order to charge the masses with just the right amount of energy to affect a positive change for our club?

Just a note - it sounds quite a lot like you're taking the piss.

Just so you know, we've noticed.

My goodness. I care neither for the welcome nor the language.

I assure you sir, that my offerings to this topic are far from "taking the Michael" (as I'd far prefer if you don't mind). I'm simply adding another claret and blue toned voice to a chorus that already appears to be a little beyond a diminuendo already.

[olaftab]

Of me lambert is the same as moyes - ok at a club of a certain size but totally out of their depth at a bigger club .

Notwithstanding that I will offend the Honourable Mr Tiny Asretrumpet with bad words here I  would suggest that you are talking out of your bottom orifice  Eastters! Mouse went to Champions and one of the richest clubs in the world. Lambert came to us having finished higher than us with Norwich and  despite the fact that historically we are a bigger club than Norwich  at the moment we have a team and operating conditions that make us Norwich's equals. So he has been not challenged in managing us as a "big club".

[Chico Hamilton III]

I have waited far too long, it would seem, to allow myself to be exposed to such eloquence. What must one do from such a point in time to get such thinkers together with the influence and persuasive power of people like Mr.Woodhall in order to charge the masses with just the right amount of energy to affect a positive change for our club?

Just a note - it sounds quite a lot like you're taking the piss.

Just so you know, we've noticed.

And it should be 'effect a positive change', not 'affect'. I think 'affecting change' is pretty much what the club is doing at the moment.

Also, isn't the term "Mr.Mazrim kindly proffered" an example of a split infinitive? Jesus, don't these kids go to school?

[Damo70]

I have waited far too long, it would seem, to allow myself to be exposed to such eloquence. What must one do from such a point in time to get such thinkers together with the influence and persuasive power of people like Mr.Woodhall in order to charge the masses with just the right amount of energy to affect a positive change for our club?

Just a note - it sounds quite a lot like you're taking the piss.

Just so you know, we've noticed.

And it should be 'effect a positive change', not 'affect'. I think 'affecting change' is pretty much what the club is doing at the moment.

Also, isn't the term "Mr.Mazrim kindly proffered" an example of a split infinitive? Jesus, don't these kids go to school?

Uh oh. TA stated he was deeply religious and now you have brought Jesus into it. But seeing as you have, if he were a Villa fan, what would Jesus do?

[Richard E]

There's no IF about it, of course Jesus/God is/are a Villa fan/Villa fans!!

[Tiny Arsetrumpet]

I have waited far too long, it would seem, to allow myself to be exposed to such eloquence. What must one do from such a point in time to get such thinkers together with the influence and persuasive power of people like Mr.Woodhall in order to charge the masses with just the right amount of energy to affect a positive change for our club?

Just a note - it sounds quite a lot like you're taking the piss.

Just so you know, we've noticed.

And it should be 'effect a positive change', not 'affect'. I think 'affecting change' is pretty much what the club is doing at the moment.

Also, isn't the term "Mr.Mazrim kindly proffered" an example of a split infinitive? Jesus, don't these kids go to school?

Although restricted in my education somewhat by my father's requirement to travel for his work (I failed my 11-plus meaning I missed out on going to a "proper school"), I do believe my grasp of the Queens English is firm. No mean feat having spent the last 22 years in the colonies where the language is frequently mangled almost beyond recognition.

Let us return to the subject at hand, shall we?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Regardless of the actual figures, it's hard not to imagine Westwood, Weimann, Lowton, Bacuna, Sylla etc are going to be low wages, relative to the rest of the PL.

The club keep telling us we need to cut the wage bill. That is a main reason we are buying players from the lower leagues.

Westwood, Weimann and Lowton all signed new, improved contracts in the summer. I doubt any are are on less than 25k.
I'd imagine the main reason we're buying players from the lower leagues is they're worth taking a chance on and Lambert thinks they can develop.

I would bet everything I own the likes of Lowton and Westwood are on nothing like 25k a week. Nothing like that much. Taking someone from Crewe, on the wages that move would imply, then bumping them up to over 25k a week is the sort of money wasting that got us in this mess in the first place.

Really? You don't think wages play a massive part? They've as good as told us they do.

Of course the wages are an issue, just as they are at every club but to say we're paying peanuts is unfounded. Of the players you mentioned, three got improved contracts in the summer, Bacuna only joined in the summer and Sylla didn't get an improved contract. Can you imagine the disharmony in the dressing room with Gabby on 55/60k, Benteke on 50k, Vlaar must be on around 40k and everybody else on crumbs, I don't see it. Look at our turnover (90m?) and calculate 60% which is spent on wages, that's around 54m. That's a hell of a lot of money to share out even taking into account the deadwood.

[PeterWithesShin]

I have waited far too long, it would seem, to allow myself to be exposed to such eloquence. What must one do from such a point in time to get such thinkers together with the influence and persuasive power of people like Mr.Woodhall in order to charge the masses with just the right amount of energy to affect a positive change for our club?

Just a note - it sounds quite a lot like you're taking the piss.

Just so you know, we've noticed.

My goodness. I care neither for the welcome nor the language.

I assure you sir, that my offerings to this topic are far from "taking the Michael" (as I'd far prefer if you don't mind). I'm simply adding another claret and blue toned voice to a chorus that already appears to be a little beyond a diminuendo already.

Hello again Troy.

[eastie]

Of me lambert is the same as moyes - ok at a club of a certain size but totally out of their depth at a bigger club .

Notwithstanding that I will offend the Honourable Mr Tiny Asretrumpet with bad words here I  would suggest that you are talking out of your bottom orifice  Eastters! Mouse went to Champions and one of the richest clubs in the world. Lambert came to us having finished higher than us with Norwich and  despite the fact that historically we are a bigger club than Norwich  at the moment we have a team and operating conditions that make us Norwich's equals. So he has been not challenged in managing us as a "big club".

Moving from a club of Norwich size to villa is a huge step - there is a big difference  in size history and expectation  at villa to Norwich and I believe lambert is out of his depth and the club is too big for him .
I believe Moyes is also out of his depth at man utd and the club are too big for him as well.

Many managers can do well at certain sized clubs but then make the step up to bigger clubs and struggle.