Relegation?

[frank]

I'll have a tenner on myself feeling used and dirty five seconds after the season ends.

I'm pretty much at the stage where I don't give a toss. Stay up or go down, keep Lambert or sack him, Lerner or new owner, £10m or £100m to spend - so fucking what? I'll keep going because I enjoy the company and get a buzz out of the odd win but it's just Monopoly with a ball and I refuse to let it get in the way of real life.

When someone like Chris is saying this and Frank over on the match thread is saying he might not renew his season ticket, then I know things have really hit rock bottom

2 years ago I didn't renew immediately and the ticket office rang me (and, I'm sure, thousands of others) to ask why not. I was probably always going to renew but told them I wouldn't renew till McLeish went. They rang me the day he was sacked to ask whether I was reconsidering.

I certainly shan't be renewing this week, which is when the cash incentive expires, and the club's reminder to ST holders on Facebook has attracted a huge amount of anger and derision. I would guess that ST sales are/will be well down and that a few thousand fans well be registering their disapproval in this way.

[Lee]

I'll have a tenner on myself feeling used and dirty five seconds after the season ends.

I'm pretty much at the stage where I don't give a toss. Stay up or go down, keep Lambert or sack him, Lerner or new owner, £10m or £100m to spend - so fucking what? I'll keep going because I enjoy the company and get a buzz out of the odd win but it's just Monopoly with a ball and I refuse to let it get in the way of real life.

When someone like Chris is saying this and Frank over on the match thread is saying he might not renew his season ticket, then I know things have really hit rock bottom

2 years ago I didn't renew immediately and the ticket office rang me (and, I'm sure, thousands of others) to ask why not. I was probably always going to renew but told them I wouldn't renew till McLeish went. They rang me the day he was sacked to ask whether I was reconsidering.

I certainly shan't be renewing this week, which is when the cash incentive expires, and the club's reminder to ST holders on Facebook has attracted a huge amount of anger and derision. I would guess that ST sales are/will be well down and that a few thousand fans well be registering their disapproval in this way.

Two ST's not renewed in my household either.

Until I see a change, then I will pick and choose my games by Viagogo.

[Flamingo Lane]

It's  an obvious thing to say, but Fulham letting slip their two goal lead yesterday is looking like our get out of gaol card.

[Monty]

It's  an obvious thing to say, but Fulham letting slip their two goal lead yesterday is looking like our get out of gaol card.

Not only do I agree, but I love this spelling of 'jail'.

[Ads]

That looks to me like Cardiff and Fulham are now in a position where they won't catch us.

[richard moore]

I'll have a tenner on myself feeling used and dirty five seconds after the season ends.

I'm pretty much at the stage where I don't give a toss. Stay up or go down, keep Lambert or sack him, Lerner or new owner, £10m or £100m to spend - so fucking what? I'll keep going because I enjoy the company and get a buzz out of the odd win but it's just Monopoly with a ball and I refuse to let it get in the way of real life.

When someone like Chris is saying this and Frank over on the match thread is saying he might not renew his season ticket, then I know things have really hit rock bottom

2 years ago I didn't renew immediately and the ticket office rang me (and, I'm sure, thousands of others) to ask why not. I was probably always going to renew but told them I wouldn't renew till McLeish went. They rang me the day he was sacked to ask whether I was reconsidering.

I certainly shan't be renewing this week, which is when the cash incentive expires, and the club's reminder to ST holders on Facebook has attracted a huge amount of anger and derision. I would guess that ST sales are/will be well down and that a few thousand fans well be registering their disapproval in this way.

That would really concern me Frank if I was anything to do with the club's management. Very few people are more loyal than you when it comes to going home and away, whatever the day of the week, kick off time and location

[saunders_heroes]

So Cardiff and Fulham have to win their last 2 games to go above us  (goal difference) and Norwich have to play Arsenal and Chelsea.
I feel a little bit better today. Just a bit though.

[Toronto Villa]

So Cardiff and Fulham have to win their last 2 games to go above us  (goal difference) and Norwich have to play Arsenal and Chelsea.
I feel a little bit better today. Just a bit though.

It's just shit with 3 games to go having to even contemplate that to make yourself feel better.

[Ads]

So Cardiff and Fulham have to win their last 2 games to go above us  (goal difference) and Norwich have to play Arsenal and Chelsea.
I feel a little bit better today. Just a bit though.

The manner of Cardiff's defeat and how resigned they looked helps me think we don't need to worry about them. A Stoke draw and that is Fulham out of the equation too. Fingers crossed Chelsea do what you would expect against Norwich and we don't ship too many more.

[Ad@m]

That looks to me like Cardiff and Fulham are now in a position where they won't catch us.

And if you accept that then you must also accept that Norwich won't get 4 points from their last two games.

It's a horrible process to go through but we really shouldn't go down. Sadly, it's probably going to go to the last day.

[Ads]

I think we are probably safe, but as people are saying, the fact we are concerned about it, again, is unacceptable.

The club needs investment, it needs energised leadership and ambition at boardroom level, it needs a manager who can sort the basics of passing, moving, pressing, marking and have us playing something that passes for football.

[Malandro]

I think we are probably safe, but as people are saying, the fact we are concerned about it, again, is unacceptable.

The club needs investment, it needs energised leadership and ambition at boardroom level, it needs a manager who can sort the basics of passing, moving, pressing, marking and have us playing something that passes for football.

There is nothing that is going to stop me feeling sick for the whole of this week. Unbearable.

[Mister E]

That looks to me like Cardiff and Fulham are now in a position where they won't catch us.

And if you accept that then you must also accept that Norwich won't get 4 points from their last two games.

It's a horrible process to go through but we really shouldn't go down. Sadly, it's probably going to go to the last day.

we just need to get something out of next weeks game; at least a point. Has Lambert got it in him? Hull's fightback yesterday was as worrying as Fulham's capitulation was relieving.

[RossLeach]

So Cardiff and Fulham have to win their last 2 games to go above us  (goal difference) and Norwich have to play Arsenal and Chelsea.
I feel a little bit better today. Just a bit though.

One scary thing now following Sunderland's win is that perhaps Fulham and Cardiff (in particular) can't place any value on a draw. Had Cardiff and Sunderland drawn, then if 'salvation' is Norwich on 32 pts (and they assume Norwich won't get another point), then a draw at Stoke or Newcastle might turn out to be a good result for them. With Sunderland on 32, with a game in hand and upwardly mobile they know they NEED to win next weekend. A bit like when Fulham played us. When we equalised, they didn't have time to feel sorry for themselves, they HAD to win.

I worry that this might just mean that their attitude next weekend might be a lot better than a team who think a draw is enough (i.e. us)

[PeterWithe]

2 years ago I didn't renew immediately and the ticket office rang me (and, I'm sure, thousands of others) to ask why not. I was probably always going to renew but told them I wouldn't renew till McLeish went. They rang me the day he was sacked to ask whether I was reconsidering.

I certainly shan't be renewing this week, which is when the cash incentive expires, and the club's reminder to ST holders on Facebook has attracted a huge amount of anger and derision. I would guess that ST sales are/will be well down and that a few thousand fans well be registering their disapproval in this way.

Seems a bit daft to renew before we know what division we will be in any road, I'll almost certainly renew but I'm not paying premier league prices for championship football.