Relegation?

[Villafirst]

For me, the key thing is confidence, which is totally shot. It goes for any walk of life. You know somewhere this team can surprise you when you least expect it (Chelsea recently). Let's hope we can play like the end of last season. What happened to that form? Perhaps the Culverhouse/Karsa debacle has scarred the club more deeply than first realised?

[Lee]

Bad enough WBA are going to finish above us yet again.

Deary me.

3rd year on the trot. Has that ever happened before? Not since I've been a Villa fan that's for sure.

.. and the annoying thing is that this WKWWA came straight back out again at 16.45 yesterday.

They will never be the pride of anything, but there is no question that they have a better team and a better management than we have

[brian green]

VF I think it is clear that C and K are scapegoats.   The dressing room is still devoid of morale and confidence.   Sid and Shay have not made a scrap of difference.   The big fat finger of fate points directly at Lambert for the performances on the pitch and directly at Lerner and Faulkner for letting the club get into such an unholy everlasting mess.

[Steve kirk]

Good morning everybody, like many others on here I woke up a few times mulling it all over, I have looked at every permutation and scenario and I am just exhausted with it all, earlier last week I decided not to go to the Hull game mainly due to fear and trepidation of how shit the whole experience will be but I am being drawn to Villa Park, I am going to shout and scream my head off during the 90 minutes and hope and pray we can get the vital win we need.

[Villafirst]

BG - agree with you. Club is totally inept from Chairman to CE to Manager and to the playing squad; which has been systematically stripped of any quality/experience from 2010 onwards. A complete disgrace. It worries me that the club could do a Wolves and drop into League one if we drop this time. There is simply no football nous at board level, which is alarming to say the least.

[john e]

Next match for me is Man City away,
so I hope we can still mathematically go down just to make it more interesting

I hate dead rubbers

Looking good

Oh dear, wish I'd never wrote this now

[Chris Smith]

I'll have a tenner on myself feeling used and dirty five seconds after the season ends.

I'm pretty much at the stage where I don't give a toss. Stay up or go down, keep Lambert or sack him, Lerner or new owner, £10m or £100m to spend - so fucking what? I'll keep going because I enjoy the company and get a buzz out of the odd win but it's just Monopoly with a ball and I refuse to let it get in the way of real life.

When someone like Chris is saying this and Frank over on the match thread is saying he might not renew his season ticket, then I know things have really hit rock bottom

He's posted about 28,000 times on here so I don't for one minute believe he's "not that bothered". He's probably hurting as much as the rest of us.

Apologies to Chris for speaking on his behalf, i'm sure he cares about the Villa and would prefer us to be in the top flight and winning etc, but after what he's been through I doubt he sees what division Villa are in as that big a deal in the big scheme of life. And I doubt he's not the only one that applies to.

That's pretty much it, PWS, I still like football as a sport, I still support the Villa and will be renewing my Season Ticket in the near future and I still enjoy chatting about it, but the emotional attachment I once had has pretty much gone. The upside of that is that the threat of relegation doesn't bother me like it once did, and the improbability of us winning anything in the near future means I don't have to worry about the downside.

[villa for life]

Annoyingly, if we do lose the next three games, Sunderland will most likely have a better goal difference than us if they win two of theirs (if they do), so they only need to win two of their remaining four games to leapfrog us. Guess we'll be cheering on Giggs again, next week!!

[PaulWinch again]

We are an awful side and if we go we can't really have any complaints.

[richard moore]

We are an awful side and if we go we can't really have any complaints.

It's got so bad Paul that I don't think anyone on here would disagree with you. We even seem to have given up thinking there are 3 teams worse than us.

Chris encapsulates exactly how I feel about it all these days although from a slightly different emotional standpoint obviously

[Damo70]

We are an awful side and if we go we can't really have any complaints.

I would love to argue. Unfortunately you are spot on.

[olaftab]

VF I think it is clear that C and K are scapegoats.   The dressing room is still devoid of morale and confidence.   Sid and Shay have not made a scrap of difference.   The big fat finger of fate points directly at Lambert for the performances on the pitch and directly at Lerner and Faulkner for letting the club get into such an unholy everlasting mess.

This worries me most. I accepted two weeks ago that there was a genuine bullying case against the two mentioned and Lambert as manager has taken the right action without fear or favour. However if it is that this was a concoction devised by Lerner/Faulkner/Lambert to give a perception of change then it's almost unforgivable. Do they really take us for total  imbeciles?

[SoccerHQ]

We need a new manager and more importantly new owners.

That doesn't happen during the summer and it will be same story next season I'm afraid.

That's the reality these days I'm afraid.

[Percy McCarthy]

These are the remaining results in one place, as I got sick of googling them all the time. Cut and pasted from the new thread.

Villa
Hull-H                  (1)
Spurs-A               (0)
Man City-A           (0)       36 Points

Sunderland

Cardiff-H            (1)
Man U-A             (0)
W.Brom              (3)
Swansea            (1)        34 Points

Cardiff

Sunderland-A     (1)
Newcastle-A       (1)
Chelsea-H           (0)        32 Points

Fulham     

Stoke-A             (1)
C.Palace-H        (3)           35 Points

Norwich

Man U-A             (1)
Chelsea-A          (0)
Arsenal-H           (1)          34 Points

W.Brom

Arsenal-A            (0)
Stoke-H               (1)
Sunderland-A      (0)        37 points


So even with my pessimistic head I reckon Sunderland Cardiff and Norwich to go. However, what really worries me is that there's always a few freak results on the last day. Not with us, I'm sure, we'll get stuffed Royally.
It makes next week the biggest game in a long time!!

Just bumped this so I can find it easier. Sorry.

[avfcpg]

All eyes on Stoke v Fulham next week for me then...assuming we continue our form at home to Hull.