Relegation?

[Des Little]

People saying that teams below us won't win x games just need to look at Cardiff yesterday. It happens at this time of year, so don't rule it out. Of course this can be said of us too...we may go and win 2 games. No one knows the answers so we just have to shut our eyes and hope for the best. A ridiculous situation for the end of year 2 of 'The Plan'

[LTA]

I find it astonishing that we're still not being talked about as relegation candidates by the press.  At the moment, I would go as far as saying we're one of the favourites.

[myf]

I find it astonishing that we're still not being talked about as relegation candidates by the press.  At the moment, I would go as far as saying we're one of the favourites.

Yep we're like the invisible man. We could get relegated and no one would notice

[SoccerHQ]

Sunderland are down. The point people are missing aswell from the last page is if they do win their 3 home games (and they'd still need at least a point from elsewhere as they would remain below us on goal difference) is that two of them are at home to Swansea and WBA.

Now say they beat WBA, wouldn't that send WBA hurtling towards the championship given they're a) below us b) they also have Man. City and Arsenal to play away so they wouldn't pick up another away point and c) there's hardly any other games to play left after that!

We need two draws, no chance we'd go down on 36 points but even that looks an uphill struggle presently and I'm not confifent enough to think 34 points will be enough now as that leaves the chance of Norwich or Cardiff getting more shock wins to overtake us.

[onje_villa]

We are in freefall.
Our only hope is that Norwich lose all the remaining games, that are very difficult for the canaries, against the top teams.
There would be a miracle. . .

Not that I'm a happy Villa fan right now BUT it must be said we are still above the Baggies and Swansea also... We're 4 points clear with a game in hand. It's extremely unlikely that we'll go down.

[David_Nab]

Bottom line after losing to Stoke ,Fulham and Palace who are all around us we simply have to beat either Swansea or Hull that would give us 37 points and enough to just about stay up.

The problem I see is a loss to Southampton is going to turn the atmosphere at Villa Park toxic heaping huge pressure on for game against Hull and I just don't think we have the players to carry us through it.

If it were me I would be playing Gabby uptop alone he is fast enough to play on shoulder of defender and strong enough to hold ball up ,then pack midfield Westy /Delph /KEA ..then Albrighton giving width.Left side is the issue your left with Wiemann who doesn't suit the role ,Tonev who isn't up to it or playing Bennet or Beltrand there.

Holt for me is only good for an impact role he clearly can't last 90 mins.I wouldn't have Bowery on bench over Robinson who I belive is 2nd highest scorer in the under 21 league.Getting Helenius fit will help too as he has a good touch and was ok in pre season.

[nodge]

Let's hope Hull get through today and their players start to try not to get injured two weeks before the cup final.  It's probably the only chance most of them will ever get to play in an FA cup final. *clutches at straws*

[pauliewalnuts]

We are in freefall.
Our only hope is that Norwich lose all the remaining games, that are very difficult for the canaries, against the top teams.
There would be a miracle. . .

Not that I'm a happy Villa fan right now BUT it must be said we are still above the Baggies and Swansea also... We're 4 points clear with a game in hand. It's extremely unlikely that we'll go down.

But then I find myself thinking we look like we won't take another point this season.

[SoccerHQ]

We are in freefall.
Our only hope is that Norwich lose all the remaining games, that are very difficult for the canaries, against the top teams.
There would be a miracle. . .

Not that I'm a happy Villa fan right now BUT it must be said we are still above the Baggies and Swansea also... We're 4 points clear with a game in hand. It's extremely unlikely that we'll go down.

But then I find myself thinking we look like we won't take another point this season.

True but surely you can apply that logic to Norwich given they themselves actually lost to Fulham aswell, we battered them a few weeks back and they have a far harder run in than we do?

Or is the case of being instantly a million times harder on your own team than opposition you just watch highlights on?

[john e]

We are in freefall.
Our only hope is that Norwich lose all the remaining games, that are very difficult for the canaries, against the top teams.
There would be a miracle. . .

Not that I'm a happy Villa fan right now BUT it must be said we are still above the Baggies and Swansea also... We're 4 points clear with a game in hand. It's extremely unlikely that we'll go down.

But then I find myself thinking we look like we won't take another point this season.

As poor as we are, I just can't get my head around us losing 9 games on the trot

[pauliewalnuts]

We are in freefall.
Our only hope is that Norwich lose all the remaining games, that are very difficult for the canaries, against the top teams.
There would be a miracle. . .

Not that I'm a happy Villa fan right now BUT it must be said we are still above the Baggies and Swansea also... We're 4 points clear with a game in hand. It's extremely unlikely that we'll go down.

But then I find myself thinking we look like we won't take another point this season.

True but surely you can apply that logic to Norwich given they themselves actually lost to Fulham aswell, we battered them a few weeks back and they have a far harder run in than we do?

Or is the case of being instantly a million times harder on your own team than opposition you just watch highlights on?

You're probably right, but I just wish we'd do something to help ourselves rather than bobbing around so rudderlessly as we are.

[SoccerHQ]

We are in freefall.
Our only hope is that Norwich lose all the remaining games, that are very difficult for the canaries, against the top teams.
There would be a miracle. . .

Not that I'm a happy Villa fan right now BUT it must be said we are still above the Baggies and Swansea also... We're 4 points clear with a game in hand. It's extremely unlikely that we'll go down.

But then I find myself thinking we look like we won't take another point this season.

True but surely you can apply that logic to Norwich given they themselves actually lost to Fulham aswell, we battered them a few weeks back and they have a far harder run in than we do?

Or is the case of being instantly a million times harder on your own team than opposition you just watch highlights on?

You're probably right, but I just wish we'd do something to help ourselves rather than bobbing around so rudderlessly as we are.

I know I know, believe me I know we're crap aswell but it does amuse me people saying we won't pick up another point this season yet are adding 6-7 no problem on Cardiff and Norwich's tallies.

[Toronto Villa]

We are in freefall.
Our only hope is that Norwich lose all the remaining games, that are very difficult for the canaries, against the top teams.
There would be a miracle. . .

Not that I'm a happy Villa fan right now BUT it must be said we are still above the Baggies and Swansea also... We're 4 points clear with a game in hand. It's extremely unlikely that we'll go down.

But then I find myself thinking we look like we won't take another point this season.

As poor as we are, I just can't get my head around us losing 9 games on the trot

although we have broken a number of unwanted records in the past 2 seasons...

[ChicagoLion]

I think it is no points from the last 4 games which included Sturke Palace and Fulham that has got a lot of us scared. I don't think anybody thought our points total would be 0

[Toronto Villa]

I think it is no points from the last 4 games which included Sturke Palace and Fulham that has got a lot of us scared. I don't think anybody thought our points total would be 0

Even the most pessimistic fan would have suggested one win amongst that lot. Certainly you'd have been pretty bold to have predicted 0 points.