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Offline supertom

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #750 on: April 12, 2014, 07:14:25 PM »
Same for me, Richard.
George Bernard Shaw wrote that only cows never change their mind.
At least at a certain moment (6 months ago as far as I am concerned) we realized that we were wrong. I wonder how long will it take to the others.

Me too my friend. We shall leave it there I think ;-) !!!
I suppose there weren't a whole heap of options around at the time either. Had we genuinely harboured hopes of getting Rodgers for example, I'd have wanted him over Lambert undoubtedly.

Offline Archie

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #751 on: April 12, 2014, 07:16:45 PM »
It must be said that PL changed a lot respect to the manager that he was at Norwich. In Norfolk he made his team to play an entertaining, attacking football, with a diamond formation, with two real wingers that provided crosses in the box,  and with the full backs that pushed and knew how to treat the ball.
Totally different.

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #752 on: April 12, 2014, 07:18:46 PM »
Lerner has mad some bad appointments but the majority wanted lambert. I think we can excuse him that one.  Very worrying who will be appointed next though.

Egg on face with martinez

Just because a bunch of away fans sung Lambert's name at Norwich doesn't mean the whole fan base wanted him nor does it mean we should stick by him. At least 2 managers we know of turned down the job, and that has to be because of Lerner and his budget for the new manager.
Lerner is the problem.

The vast majority of us were happy when Lambert got the job, you can't rewrite history on that front, no matter how much it suits your argument.

The fact is that, since then, his performance has been way way short of what is acceptable. Anyone can see that. Suggesting he was in some way not met with almost total approval when he came is untrue.

Not every Villa fan was dancing with delight when he was appointed you know.

Yes, I know, which is why i didn't say that.

I'm sure you saw this coming a mile off, so award yourself a gold star and slap yourself on the back, but if you think he didn't have "almost" total approval, then you've not got a very good memory.

He managed to have approximately 90 percent approval at the end of last season, too.

Not from me he didn't.

How is it even possible to argue with that?

I've not said you supported him, and I've not said everyone supported him, either.

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #753 on: April 12, 2014, 07:20:07 PM »
I was one of the vast majority who was happy with his appointment. I bought into the idea of young, hungry players, attacking, entertaining football.
It seems, as it will for most of those who welcome Lambo's appointment, that I overestimated his talent, and furthermore he's failed to deliver on his promises for the most part.

I really bought into it after a couple of months, even when we were shit I could keep seeing glimpses of something and stuck by him 100%. At times we scored some of the best goals and played some of the best football since the mid 90s. Been very little sign of any of it this season.

I thought there were plenty of positives last season, despite the poor results, and despite the fact that people tend to see last year as being like the last quarter of it, which was good, whereas prior to that it was considerably less impressive.

Despite all that, there were positives, we were making progress.

This year, though, it has been pathetic, we've gone backwards and the results have been dreadful.

Offline supertom

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #754 on: April 12, 2014, 07:34:25 PM »
I was one of the vast majority who was happy with his appointment. I bought into the idea of young, hungry players, attacking, entertaining football.
It seems, as it will for most of those who welcome Lambo's appointment, that I overestimated his talent, and furthermore he's failed to deliver on his promises for the most part.

I really bought into it after a couple of months, even when we were shit I could keep seeing glimpses of something and stuck by him 100%. At times we scored some of the best goals and played some of the best football since the mid 90s. Been very little sign of any of it this season.

I thought there were plenty of positives last season, despite the poor results, and despite the fact that people tend to see last year as being like the last quarter of it, which was good, whereas prior to that it was considerably less impressive.

Despite all that, there were positives, we were making progress.

This year, though, it has been pathetic, we've gone backwards and the results have been dreadful.
We found a way that had us playing pretty effectively. Even so, our Feb-May results were only mid-table level. We played nice stuff at times of course. However Lambert got worked out pretty quickly this season. Teams get wise to you if you only have one way of playing. This season has been mostly a shambles. Half our wins have been incredibly fortunate too.

It's been so disappointing how bereft of ideas Lambert has been. And that he didn't even try and address a lack of quality in midfield over the two windows was even worse. At least a decent player or two might have been able to potentially turn a dour game such as today. Signing 3 strikers, a winger (when he doesn't use wingers), and 2 more left backs in two windows, but failing to address our total lack of a midfielder with guile (or the much vaunted No10) has been an incredible failing that no amount of financial excuses can cover.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #755 on: April 12, 2014, 07:41:42 PM »
It was 6th or 7th form. 20 points from the last 13 games. Over a season 58/59 points.

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #756 on: April 12, 2014, 07:50:06 PM »
If we fall to an 11th home defeat to the Saints next Saturday and Fulham and Cardiff pick up points against Spurs and Stoke respectively we will be teetering on the edge of relegation.

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #757 on: April 12, 2014, 07:51:41 PM »
We are in trouble now and based on our recent performances I am shell shocked tonight.I can not believe Lambert has brought us to this juncture.

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #758 on: April 12, 2014, 07:53:45 PM »
We are 4 points above the drop-zone. I think we ARE teetering on the edge.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #759 on: April 12, 2014, 07:55:41 PM »
We are 4 points above the drop-zone. I think we ARE teetering on the edge.

5 with GD. I still don't think we'll go down. Get the bunting out.

Offline Archie

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #760 on: April 12, 2014, 07:56:58 PM »
We are in freefall.
Our only hope is that Norwich lose all the remaining games, that are very difficult for the canaries, against the top teams.
There would be a miracle. . .

Offline supertom

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #761 on: April 12, 2014, 07:57:49 PM »
I can't believe we've beaten Arsenal, Man City and Chelsea this season. It's baffling that when it comes down to playing the teams we really should beat, we've been utterly wretched.
Had the games against the big boys gone to the Sky script, we'd be fucked right now. Thank christ. The fact we've pulled off 3 big wins, as well as a great win at Saint Mary's and what should have been a win at Anfield, is what's going to (just about) keep us up.

Could you see Lambert pulling off big results next season? I'm not so sure. Not that many. He also seems a long way off from having us win more of the bread and butter games we should be.

Next season with Lambert in charge fills me with dread.

Hopefully next season will be with a new man at the helm with a bit of cash to spend. At the very least we should be competing financially with teams like Southampton. 20-30 million shouldn't be beyond us.

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #762 on: April 12, 2014, 08:10:28 PM »
Freefall - that is the word that describes us well right now.
'In the cack' is the appropriate phrase.

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #763 on: April 12, 2014, 08:55:46 PM »
Have to say what an unbelievable job Pulis has done at Palace, mental they actually have the 5th best defence in the premier league as they were conceding hatfuls under Holloway at the start of the season, another promoted team Hull also have the 6th best defence so two promoted teams in the top 6 best defences.

Offline SteveN

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #764 on: April 12, 2014, 09:01:31 PM »
If it's about momentum, then we are fecked.

 


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