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Author Topic: Relegation?  (Read 257367 times)

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #735 on: April 12, 2014, 06:45:14 PM »
Lerner has mad some bad appointments but the majority wanted lambert. I think we can excuse him that one.  Very worrying who will be appointed next though.

Egg on face with martinez

Just because a bunch of away fans sung Lambert's name at Norwich doesn't mean the whole fan base wanted him nor does it mean we should stick by him. At least 2 managers we know of turned down the job, and that has to be because of Lerner and his budget for the new manager.
Lerner is the problem.

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #736 on: April 12, 2014, 06:46:42 PM »
My question is always the same. How long will it take to some of our  mates to acknowledge that we are in the hands of a clueless  man that is driving us straight to hell?

I can not understand how the legendary  claret and blue army can remain so supine.
In Italy fans would have done the revolution and the so said manager would have been sacked 5 months ago. . .

I've been saying this for the last 4 or so years.

Offline IAmTheOneIanOlney

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #737 on: April 12, 2014, 06:49:35 PM »
If we get one more point this season, against Hull at home, say, I think we'll be safe with that. The only points I can see Norwich possibly taking are against Arsenal at home. Think they'll lose all the other games, so they'll end up on 35 with a poorer GD than us.

Sadly, I'm not even confident we'll get a point at home to Hull - if Lambert stays, anyway.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #738 on: April 12, 2014, 06:53:14 PM »
Lerner has mad some bad appointments but the majority wanted lambert. I think we can excuse him that one.  Very worrying who will be appointed next though.

Egg on face with martinez

Just because a bunch of away fans sung Lambert's name at Norwich doesn't mean the whole fan base wanted him nor does it mean we should stick by him. At least 2 managers we know of turned down the job, and that has to be because of Lerner and his budget for the new manager.
Lerner is the problem.

The vast majority of us were happy when Lambert got the job, you can't rewrite history on that front, no matter how much it suits your argument.

The fact is that, since then, his performance has been way way short of what is acceptable. Anyone can see that. Suggesting he was in some way not met with almost total approval when he came is untrue.

Offline richard moore

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #739 on: April 12, 2014, 06:59:45 PM »
Very true Paulie. I wanted him. The Wigan chairman set most of us against wanting Martinez including me. I was wrong on both counts. Where I don't think I am wrong is in wanting Lambert gone for months

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #740 on: April 12, 2014, 07:03:01 PM »
Lerner has mad some bad appointments but the majority wanted lambert. I think we can excuse him that one.  Very worrying who will be appointed next though.

Egg on face with martinez

Just because a bunch of away fans sung Lambert's name at Norwich doesn't mean the whole fan base wanted him nor does it mean we should stick by him. At least 2 managers we know of turned down the job, and that has to be because of Lerner and his budget for the new manager.
Lerner is the problem.

The vast majority of us were happy when Lambert got the job, you can't rewrite history on that front, no matter how much it suits your argument.

The fact is that, since then, his performance has been way way short of what is acceptable. Anyone can see that. Suggesting he was in some way not met with almost total approval when he came is untrue.

Not every Villa fan was dancing with delight when he was appointed you know.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #741 on: April 12, 2014, 07:04:01 PM »
Probably why Paulie said vast majority rather than everyone. I wasn't exactly thrilled when he was appointed.

Offline Archie

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #742 on: April 12, 2014, 07:04:41 PM »
Same for me, Richard.
George Bernard Shaw wrote that only cows never change their mind.
At least at a certain moment (6 months ago as far as I am concerned) we realized that we were wrong. I wonder how long will it take to the others.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #743 on: April 12, 2014, 07:05:32 PM »
Lerner has mad some bad appointments but the majority wanted lambert. I think we can excuse him that one.  Very worrying who will be appointed next though.

Egg on face with martinez

Just because a bunch of away fans sung Lambert's name at Norwich doesn't mean the whole fan base wanted him nor does it mean we should stick by him. At least 2 managers we know of turned down the job, and that has to be because of Lerner and his budget for the new manager.
Lerner is the problem.

The vast majority of us were happy when Lambert got the job, you can't rewrite history on that front, no matter how much it suits your argument.

The fact is that, since then, his performance has been way way short of what is acceptable. Anyone can see that. Suggesting he was in some way not met with almost total approval when he came is untrue.

Not every Villa fan was dancing with delight when he was appointed you know.

Yes, I know, which is why i didn't say that.

I'm sure you saw this coming a mile off, so award yourself a gold star and slap yourself on the back, but if you think he didn't have "almost" total approval, then you've not got a very good memory.

He managed to have approximately 90 percent approval at the end of last season, too.

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #744 on: April 12, 2014, 07:06:30 PM »
Lerner has mad some bad appointments but the majority wanted lambert. I think we can excuse him that one.  Very worrying who will be appointed next though.

Egg on face with martinez

Just because a bunch of away fans sung Lambert's name at Norwich doesn't mean the whole fan base wanted him nor does it mean we should stick by him. At least 2 managers we know of turned down the job, and that has to be because of Lerner and his budget for the new manager.
Lerner is the problem.

The vast majority of us were happy when Lambert got the job, you can't rewrite history on that front, no matter how much it suits your argument.

The fact is that, since then, his performance has been way way short of what is acceptable. Anyone can see that. Suggesting he was in some way not met with almost total approval when he came is untrue.

Not every Villa fan was dancing with delight when he was appointed you know.

Yes, I know, which is why i didn't say that.

I'm sure you saw this coming a mile off, so award yourself a gold star and slap yourself on the back, but if you think he didn't have "almost" total approval, then you've not got a very good memory.

He managed to have approximately 90 percent approval at the end of last season, too.

Not from me he didn't.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #745 on: April 12, 2014, 07:10:02 PM »
My first post after he was announced as manager. Then again I really wanted OGS and thought Beye would be a decent signing. so what do I know!

Welcome to Villa Park NVM. May the good times roll!

I'm also going to go on record and say i'm not 100% convinced by him, but I hope i'm so wrong and regardless, he's a million times better than OVM!


Offline supertom

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #746 on: April 12, 2014, 07:10:07 PM »
I was one of the vast majority who was happy with his appointment. I bought into the idea of young, hungry players, attacking, entertaining football.
It seems, as it will for most of those who welcome Lambo's appointment, that I overestimated his talent, and furthermore he's failed to deliver on his promises for the most part.

Offline supertom

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #747 on: April 12, 2014, 07:11:34 PM »
Lerner has mad some bad appointments but the majority wanted lambert. I think we can excuse him that one.  Very worrying who will be appointed next though.

Egg on face with martinez

Just because a bunch of away fans sung Lambert's name at Norwich doesn't mean the whole fan base wanted him nor does it mean we should stick by him. At least 2 managers we know of turned down the job, and that has to be because of Lerner and his budget for the new manager.
Lerner is the problem.

The vast majority of us were happy when Lambert got the job, you can't rewrite history on that front, no matter how much it suits your argument.

The fact is that, since then, his performance has been way way short of what is acceptable. Anyone can see that. Suggesting he was in some way not met with almost total approval when he came is untrue.

Not every Villa fan was dancing with delight when he was appointed you know.

Yes, I know, which is why i didn't say that.

I'm sure you saw this coming a mile off, so award yourself a gold star and slap yourself on the back, but if you think he didn't have "almost" total approval, then you've not got a very good memory.

He managed to have approximately 90 percent approval at the end of last season, too.

Not from me he didn't.
Just out of curiosity SH, was there anyone you fancied back then? Were you in the OGS camp for example?
No dig of any kind intended by the way, just curious.

Offline richard moore

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #748 on: April 12, 2014, 07:11:52 PM »
Same for me, Richard.
George Bernard Shaw wrote that only cows never change their mind.
At least at a certain moment (6 months ago as far as I am concerned) we realized that we were wrong. I wonder how long will it take to the others.

Me too my friend. We shall leave it there I think ;-) !!!

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Relegation?
« Reply #749 on: April 12, 2014, 07:13:35 PM »
I was one of the vast majority who was happy with his appointment. I bought into the idea of young, hungry players, attacking, entertaining football.
It seems, as it will for most of those who welcome Lambo's appointment, that I overestimated his talent, and furthermore he's failed to deliver on his promises for the most part.

I really bought into it after a couple of months, even when we were shit I could keep seeing glimpses of something and stuck by him 100%. At times we scored some of the best goals and played some of the best football since the mid 90s. Been very little sign of any of it this season.

 


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