Transfer Speculation / Gossip

[ozzjim]

The need for a creative option would still have been there though.


I would have happily taken a punt on Ben Arfa who seems to be going to Hull. They have had a good day.

[rob_bridge]

Why the obsession with amount of money? We effectively have 7 new players in. Senderos, Sanchez, Cissokho, Richardson, Cole and return of N'Zogbia and emergence of Grealish.  Yes one more midfielder would be nice but let's rebuild with consideration. Less haste more speed.

Love the packaging of Grealish and N'Zogbia as "new players in".

Put it this way. Rewind to the last day of last season. Imagine we'd been told "By end of window, total spend about £6m, players signed Joe Cole, Senderos, Richardson, Cissokho. Is that enough?"

How many of us would have said "yes"?

It is good that we've gone three games unbeaten and look better at the back, but it is three games, that is nothing. What's more, we also got beaten at home by a league one club in the cup yet again, and over the three league games have struggled to create goal scoring chances.

Have we done enough to address that problem (which we have had for ages)?

I don't think we have.

The start to the season is encouraging, but it lasts a long time. This time last year we were full of confidence after winning at Arsenal and getting robbed of three points at Chelsea.

It looks to me like our ambition doesn't really go much beyond staying up. I am sure we'd *like* to do better, if that's how you define ambition, but it really looks like we are not prepared to spend much money at all to achieve that ambition.

Given the amount of money in the game these days, that is a pathetically low spend.

Agree with you 100%.  I do not expect Lerner to invest more money but we should have been spending the equivalent to break even against projected income.

He's a long way from breaking even based  on previous wage splurges.

Ckeverly's agent wants 80k a week. No Thanks. Total cost 25m over next 4 years in transfer and insuramce.

[Percy McCarthy]

Why the obsession with amount of money? We effectively have 7 new players in. Senderos, Sanchez, Cissokho, Richardson, Cole and return of N'Zogbia and emergence of Grealish.  Yes one more midfielder would be nice but let's rebuild with consideration. Less haste more speed.

Love the packaging of Grealish and N'Zogbia as "new players in".

Put it this way. Rewind to the last day of last season. Imagine we'd been told "By end of window, total spend about £6m, players signed Joe Cole, Senderos, Richardson, Cissokho. Is that enough?"

How many of us would have said "yes"?

It is good that we've gone three games unbeaten and look better at the back, but it is three games, that is nothing. What's more, we also got beaten at home by a league one club in the cup yet again, and over the three league games have struggled to create goal scoring chances.

Have we done enough to address that problem (which we have had for ages)?

I don't think we have.

The start to the season is encouraging, but it lasts a long time. This time last year we were full of confidence after winning at Arsenal and getting robbed of three points at Chelsea.

It looks to me like our ambition doesn't really go much beyond staying up. I am sure we'd *like* to do better, if that's how you define ambition, but it really looks like we are not prepared to spend much money at all to achieve that ambition.

Given the amount of money in the game these days, that is a pathetically low spend.

Why rewind to the end of the season? We know more now. We didn't think Hutton would play for us again, or so well. We thought Senderos and Cissoko were shit - we are at least re-evaluating that now.

And you missed out our biggest signing. I'm not really optimistic about the season yet, but I'm not in despair like I have been at various points over the last four seasons. Plenty of time for that yet.

[Malandro]

My initial reaction was I thought Cleverley would be a decent signing, perhaps a solid fixture in our team for years to come.

I'm starting to think, however, he's a poor player, a wanker and glad he's not here*


*subject to change

[old man villa fan]

Why the obsession with amount of money? We effectively have 7 new players in. Senderos, Sanchez, Cissokho, Richardson, Cole and return of N'Zogbia and emergence of Grealish.  Yes one more midfielder would be nice but let's rebuild with consideration. Less haste more speed.

Love the packaging of Grealish and N'Zogbia as "new players in".

Put it this way. Rewind to the last day of last season. Imagine we'd been told "By end of window, total spend about £6m, players signed Joe Cole, Senderos, Richardson, Cissokho. Is that enough?"

How many of us would have said "yes"?

It is good that we've gone three games unbeaten and look better at the back, but it is three games, that is nothing. What's more, we also got beaten at home by a league one club in the cup yet again, and over the three league games have struggled to create goal scoring chances.

Have we done enough to address that problem (which we have had for ages)?

I don't think we have.

The start to the season is encouraging, but it lasts a long time. This time last year we were full of confidence after winning at Arsenal and getting robbed of three points at Chelsea.

It looks to me like our ambition doesn't really go much beyond staying up. I am sure we'd *like* to do better, if that's how you define ambition, but it really looks like we are not prepared to spend much money at all to achieve that ambition.

Given the amount of money in the game these days, that is a pathetically low spend.

Agree with you 100%.  I do not expect Lerner to invest more money but we should have been spending the equivalent to break even against projected income.

He's a long way from breaking even based  on previous wage splurges.

Ckeverly's agent wants 80k a week. No Thanks. Total cost 25m over next 4 years in transfer and insuramce.

Break even for this season.

In our position, there is no way that we should consider paying any player anywhere near £80k a week.

[pauliewalnuts]

And you missed out our biggest signing. I'm not really optimistic about the season yet, but I'm not in despair like I have been at various points over the last four seasons. Plenty of time for that yet.

An oversight, but still, it doesn't change much.

I take your point about Hutton but, again, does it really make that much difference? I don't think so.

I am not in despair either. I am just disappointed we are so unambitious. We're doing just enough to survive and nothing more.

[Mister E]

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John Percy ‏@John__Percy  2m
#avfc will not be signing Tom Cleverley from #mufc. Cleverley holding out for a move to Everton. No other business expected at Villa

What I don't get is how Everton can afford the quoted wage expectations.
Shame there is no plan C ... but then we do not do that on the pitch, do they?

[OCD]

Is this Transfer Deadline day or Falcao day? Getting sick of Sky banging on about it at every opportunity.

[LeeB]

We're better off spending what we've got in January, when we're top.

[curiousorange]

That's a poor end to the window for Villa. I wasn't expecting a score of players but it's obvious to the most simple of folk that we don't have the squad depth to settle for what we have.

[pauliewalnuts]

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John Percy ‏@John__Percy  2m
#avfc will not be signing Tom Cleverley from #mufc. Cleverley holding out for a move to Everton. No other business expected at Villa

What I don't get is how Everton can afford the quoted wage expectations.
Shame there is no plan C ... but then we do not do that on the pitch, do they?

If Everton pay him anything like that, they're nuts.

Where, though, is our Plan B? Canales contacted on deadline day? He says he doesn't want to leave Spain. Surely we could have sounded him out about that weeks ago, if his objection was on such a fundamental issue?

[Ian.]

Is this Transfer Deadline day or Falcao day? Getting sick of Sky banging on about it at every opportunity.

Much better not to watch. I've allowed the kids to stay up, we now have Ben & Holly's Little Kingdom. All four are tranced out, even the two older ones!

[pauliewalnuts]

Is this Transfer Deadline day or Falcao day? Getting sick of Sky banging on about it at every opportunity.

Because there's not much else to talk about, I reckon.

[Monty]

In a world where £13m will grant you the privilege of owning Fabio Borini and whatever it is that he does, I think our business has been very good.

[kippaxvilla2]

Villa have officially walked away from the Cleverley deal due to wages.