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Offline Clampy

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6870 on: August 29, 2014, 02:10:19 PM »
aren't Valencia also interested?

I saw they just entered the fray.

It looks like the Tesco bags are going to snap up Seb Blanco for only £2m, and I think his creativity could've been used here. Oh well. Apparently Alex Song is coming to England in the cheap, west ham in the lead.

I really like Alex Song but he's ever so injury prone.

Offline Holte L2

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6871 on: August 29, 2014, 02:17:36 PM »
aren't Valencia also interested?

I saw they just entered the fray.

It looks like the Tesco bags are going to snap up Seb Blanco for only £2m, and I think his creativity could've been used here. Oh well. Apparently Alex Song is coming to England in the cheap, west ham in the lead.

I really like Alex Song but he's ever so injury prone.

According too:  http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-song/profil/spieler/27394 he's not had a bad injury for three years.

(Yes I'm bored at work). 

Offline Dr Butler

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6872 on: August 29, 2014, 02:18:05 PM »
Jamie O'Hara has just left the Dogheads by mutual consent...   ;)

*runs away

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6873 on: August 29, 2014, 02:24:05 PM »
aren't Valencia also interested?

I saw they just entered the fray.

It looks like the Tesco bags are going to snap up Seb Blanco for only £2m, and I think his creativity could've been used here. Oh well. Apparently Alex Song is coming to England in the cheap, west ham in the lead.

I really like Alex Song but he's ever so injury prone.

We've got Sanchez to fill that kind of role. 

As for Cleverley, I wonder if the chance to work with Roy Keane might be persuasive.  Keane is likely to be an idol for a lot of current players and I just wonder whether that might be a draw, particularly for midfield players.  Or am I just clutching at straws?

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6874 on: August 29, 2014, 02:44:43 PM »
The Mail Online reckon that Cleverley has already met with Keane.

Offline Ads

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6875 on: August 29, 2014, 02:50:47 PM »
If its us, Hull and Valencia in for him, I think he'd come here.

Charlie don't surf and Englishmen don't travel.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6876 on: August 29, 2014, 02:57:52 PM »
"I watch Spanish football a lot. If they pass the ball sideways but keep possession, the fans clap them."  Tom Cleverley.

I do agree though we should be able to get him ahead of those two clubs, If Everton are in for him that's a different matter.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6877 on: August 29, 2014, 03:01:14 PM »
aren't Valencia also interested?

I saw they just entered the fray.

It looks like the Tesco bags are going to snap up Seb Blanco for only £2m, and I think his creativity could've been used here. Oh well. Apparently Alex Song is coming to England in the cheap, west ham in the lead.

I really like Alex Song but he's ever so injury prone.

We've got Sanchez to fill that kind of role. 

As for Cleverley, I wonder if the chance to work with Roy Keane might be persuasive.  Keane is likely to be an idol for a lot of current players and I just wonder whether that might be a draw, particularly for midfield players.  Or am I just clutching at straws?

Hopefully we get the players we want on the basis that after they have met Roy Keane they will be too scared of what he might do to them to dare sign for anyone else.

Offline richard moore

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6878 on: August 29, 2014, 03:02:49 PM »
Milner is an average winger, but an excellent central midfielder. He's won two titles, an FA Cup and a League Cup, played Euorpean football but at the expense of his potential.

Fine balance really. I think I'd end up being disappointed that I didn't get the chance to show what sort of player I was capable of being.

I don't think he was ever that good to think that way to be honest, even in his best position

Offline brian green

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6879 on: August 29, 2014, 03:11:30 PM »
The Cleverley manoeuvre has a neat, if  unintended serendipity as you comment rightly Toronto. The message it sends out is don't try to second guess the Villa. The Lawro massive had got us written off and sinking. A bid of £8 million for a £12 million player would have had the pundits still writing us off for wishful thinking. Just trying to boost season ticket sales they would have scoffed.  But to make an offer of £8 million for a player worth £4 million is blue sky (sorry about the B word) thinking LVG can only dream of. In one move we have got our billionaire owner back. Naive he may be and fickle too and impulsive but he still has a hell of a lot of money.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6880 on: August 29, 2014, 03:16:14 PM »
Milner is an average winger, but an excellent central midfielder. He's won two titles, an FA Cup and a League Cup, played Euorpean football but at the expense of his potential.

Fine balance really. I think I'd end up being disappointed that I didn't get the chance to show what sort of player I was capable of being.

I don't think he was ever that good to think that way to be honest, even in his best position

For that six months he played in central midfield, he was as good as Gerrard.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6881 on: August 29, 2014, 03:19:04 PM »
The Cleverley manoeuvre has a neat, if  unintended serendipity as you comment rightly Toronto. The message it sends out is don't try to second guess the Villa. The Lawro massive had got us written off and sinking. A bid of £8 million for a £12 million player would have had the pundits still writing us off for wishful thinking. Just trying to boost season ticket sales they would have scoffed.  But to make an offer of £8 million for a player worth £4 million is blue sky (sorry about the B word) thinking LVG can only dream of. In one move we have got our billionaire owner back. Naive he may be and fickle too and impulsive but he still has a hell of a lot of money.

the one thing I'll say for the market is that it is what it is. By that I mean, I really have no idea Cleverley's actual worth other than to position against other deals. English players are inflated in price and average PL clubs tend to pay too much for players anyway. But when you look at some of the other bizarre deals that have taken place is  the figure being quoted anything other than what the market is dictating and for a player that not that long ago was playing quite frequently for the champions and in the England squad?

As for Randy I have never felt he gave up, just that he didn't have the appetite to sustain what he started to that degree. He hasn't sold the club yet so he needs to support it which he continues to do even if on a more conservative level.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6882 on: August 29, 2014, 03:31:36 PM »
The Cleverley manoeuvre has a neat, if  unintended serendipity as you comment rightly Toronto. The message it sends out is don't try to second guess the Villa. The Lawro massive had got us written off and sinking. A bid of £8 million for a £12 million player would have had the pundits still writing us off for wishful thinking. Just trying to boost season ticket sales they would have scoffed.  But to make an offer of £8 million for a player worth £4 million is blue sky (sorry about the B word) thinking LVG can only dream of. In one move we have got our billionaire owner back. Naive he may be and fickle too and impulsive but he still has a hell of a lot of money.

the one thing I'll say for the market is that it is what it is. By that I mean, I really have no idea Cleverley's actual worth other than to position against other deals. English players are inflated in price and average PL clubs tend to pay too much for players anyway. But when you look at some of the other bizarre deals that have taken place is  the figure being quoted anything other than what the market is dictating and for a player that not that long ago was playing quite frequently for the champions and in the England squad?

As for Randy I have never felt he gave up, just that he didn't have the appetite to sustain what he started to that degree. He hasn't sold the club yet so he needs to support it which he continues to do even if on a more conservative level.
What did MON pay for Delph? - c£6m, 4 years' ago?
Are Delph and Cleverley roughly equal in capability and potential? - probably yes, in terms of style and energy.

Seems to me that the real discussion is: do we want another MF dynamo or should we be signing a goalscorer / goalmaker?
Maybe TC will be joined by another surprise signing with the goalscorer / goalmaker capability.

Offline richard moore

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6883 on: August 29, 2014, 03:47:40 PM »
Milner is an average winger, but an excellent central midfielder. He's won two titles, an FA Cup and a League Cup, played Euorpean football but at the expense of his potential.

Fine balance really. I think I'd end up being disappointed that I didn't get the chance to show what sort of player I was capable of being.

I don't think he was ever that good to think that way to be honest, even in his best position

For that six months he played in central midfield, he was as good as Gerrard.

He probably was and in a team that was clicking and playing very well, partly because of him of course. I still don't think he's quite as good as is often made out though

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6884 on: August 29, 2014, 03:52:18 PM »
Milner is an average winger, but an excellent central midfielder. He's won two titles, an FA Cup and a League Cup, played Euorpean football but at the expense of his potential.

Fine balance really. I think I'd end up being disappointed that I didn't get the chance to show what sort of player I was capable of being.

I don't think he was ever that good to think that way to be honest, even in his best position

For that six months he played in central midfield, he was as good as Gerrard.

James Milner was our best central midfielder since Bruce Rioch. That includes Dennis Mortimer.

 


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