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Offline ozzjim

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6255 on: August 22, 2014, 03:45:17 PM »
Woeful Wellbeck will never be a top player. 15 million is the biggest joke out. Worth about 3.

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« Reply #6256 on: August 22, 2014, 03:48:36 PM »
Sometimes you get the impression that if they have played for Manure then there is an automatic presumption that they must be worth anything approaching £20m and upwards.  Then you remember Taibi, Veron, Carroll, and any amount of other garbage they have signed over the years.  Except if your name is Steve Bruce.
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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6257 on: August 22, 2014, 03:58:43 PM »
Woeful Wellbeck will never be a top player. 15 million is the biggest joke out. Worth about 3.

Respectfully disagree OJ.  Might not be a top 4 striker, but think he is more than capable for teams below that.  I think he's one of those that would really benefit from playing regular football and would easily be in double figures every season.  He'd be a good signing for us and as for the price tag, we have to remember that we are talking about a market where Shane Long is worth £12m. 

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6258 on: August 22, 2014, 04:02:35 PM »
Shane Long is better Tom. Seriously Wellbeck is a waste of a player on the field IMO. He is Gabby, without the pace.

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« Reply #6259 on: August 22, 2014, 04:04:46 PM »
that really is shit then.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6260 on: August 22, 2014, 04:05:21 PM »
I look forward to Welbeck never making another England squad as soon as he says his goodbyes at Old Trafford.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6261 on: August 22, 2014, 04:06:15 PM »
Shane Long is better Tom. Seriously Wellbeck is a waste of a player on the field IMO. He is Gabby, without the pace.

Massive exaggeration. I don't think you'd find too many Premiership Managers who would take Weimann or Agbonlahor over Welbeck, given the choice.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6262 on: August 22, 2014, 04:07:47 PM »
Welbeck isn't as good as the media make out. He isn't as shit as we make out either.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6263 on: August 22, 2014, 04:10:02 PM »
Shane Long is better Tom. Seriously Wellbeck is a waste of a player on the field IMO. He is Gabby, without the pace.

Massive exaggeration. I don't think you'd find too many Premiership Managers who would take Weimann or Agbonlahor over Welbeck, given the choice.
Agreed.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6264 on: August 22, 2014, 04:10:52 PM »
Shane Long is better Tom. Seriously Wellbeck is a waste of a player on the field IMO. He is Gabby, without the pace.

Massive exaggeration. I don't think you'd find too many Premiership Managers who would take Weimann or Agbonlahor over Welbeck, given the choice.
Agreed.
Agreed as well.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6265 on: August 22, 2014, 04:16:52 PM »
Then you remember Taibi, Veron, Carroll, and any amount of other garbage they have signed over the years.
Veron was an absolutly outstanding player.

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« Reply #6266 on: August 22, 2014, 04:19:17 PM »
Having lost nearly every bit of pride in the England team, I still feel a little bit of passion when people talk about Wellbeck.

How the magic mushrooms does he get in the squad? Madness.

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« Reply #6267 on: August 22, 2014, 04:26:10 PM »
I see Welbeck as a modern version of Heskey, he'll always work hard and his teammates will appreciate it but he'll never score many, he just doesn't have that instinct around the box.  Not a bad player but not one I'd be looking to bring it to help out our creative/goal-scoring requirements.

I can see what you mean, but Welbeck’s got a much better touch and awareness than Heskey ever did, which makes him much more of asset in the formation that we rend to play, with 2 guys playing either side of a central striker. Granted, he's not prolific, but I think he'd weigh-in with his fair share of assists in that position.

I wouldn't be keen to spend £15m on him (nor, I’m sure, would Randy), but as a loan option I think he’d be a massive upgrade on Weimann or Agbonlahor.

25 assists in 179 games, playing alongside 2 of the most prolific strikers in the league for most of that time.

Gabby 52 assists in 329 games.
Weimann 18 assists in 148 games.

His record doesn't set him massively ahead of either. If he was £3-4m and £25k p/w then I'd be ok with it, the cost in fee and wages is massively out of line with what he'd bring.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6268 on: August 22, 2014, 04:42:22 PM »
Then you remember Taibi, Veron, Carroll, and any amount of other garbage they have signed over the years.
Veron was an absolutly outstanding player.

he was. Just that he rarely hit those heights for them.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6269 on: August 22, 2014, 04:53:14 PM »
Welbeck would probably score more than Gabby. But, he's not what we need.

 


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