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Offline Ryu

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5445 on: August 12, 2014, 11:11:36 AM »
Reading the comment below that AS article, that fan doesn't seem sorry to see him go. Says he's great at breaking up play, but in terms of passing and [salir jugando - I take to mean technical ability] he's "worse than bad".

So I guess he'd sit deep for us and just act as an enforcer?

To be honest I would rather us sign someone like Ki to anchor our midfield a la Petrov rather than a NRC type.  No idea what this Sanchez is like, 44 caps for Colombia suggests pretty good but 28 and playing for Elche doesn't suggest amazing.  But like Dekko says at least the club are clearly trying to strengthen the midfield after having got in a CB and LB.  These are the areas most of us would have wanted improving a few months ago.

Offline Proposition Joe

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5446 on: August 12, 2014, 11:15:53 AM »
Reading the comment below that AS article, that fan doesn't seem sorry to see him go. Says he's great at breaking up play, but in terms of passing and [salir jugando - I take to mean technical ability] he's "worse than bad".

So I guess he'd sit deep for us and just act as an enforcer?

Probably, but what counts as a crap passer in La Liga is a universe away from what counts as a crap passer in "The Best League In The World TM"

And especially in the team which completed fewer passes than everyone else last season (errr, probably).

He'll look like Xavi next to the rest of our team.

Probably. And it could also be their equivalent of "Barry/Milner/Young can go, the greedy bastard, they were crap anyway" syndrome.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5447 on: August 12, 2014, 11:37:53 AM »
If he comes in to replace KEA and breaks things up and can play the simple balls for westwood and delph then he'll be a huge upgrade.  That's the passing KEA does and the defensive job he tries to do but he's just not up to speed and ends up looking a like a passenger.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5448 on: August 12, 2014, 11:45:01 AM »
So a new Reo Coker? As i liked NRC that would do me.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5449 on: August 12, 2014, 11:45:29 AM »
So a new Reo Coker? As i liked NRC that would do me.

how's his arm waving and pointing skills?

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5450 on: August 12, 2014, 11:47:58 AM »
So a new Reo Coker? As i liked NRC that would do me.

I wonder if he'll be a panicky if he gets through on goal as NRC? Have never known a player to look so worried about the prospect of scoring.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5451 on: August 12, 2014, 11:54:14 AM »
Didn't Angel's transfer fee end up going all over the place to different people as well?

I seem to remember at the time Doug saying the fee was paid via FIFA to avoid the controversies...might have dreamt that though :-)

*think FIFA was not regarded as being as corrupt back then

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5452 on: August 12, 2014, 12:05:04 PM »
Reading the comment below that AS article, that fan doesn't seem sorry to see him go. Says he's great at breaking up play, but in terms of passing and [salir jugando - I take to mean technical ability] he's "worse than bad".

So I guess he'd sit deep for us and just act as an enforcer?

To be honest I would rather us sign someone like Ki to anchor our midfield a la Petrov rather than a NRC type.  No idea what this Sanchez is like, 44 caps for Colombia suggests pretty good but 28 and playing for Elche doesn't suggest amazing. 

Ki is an attacking midfielder. He could never be a defensive midfielder. Far too lightweight.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5453 on: August 12, 2014, 12:07:05 PM »
The Spanish press think the deal is close;

Link to Spanish article.

Edit: To clarify on The Sun, they're wrong to suggest he was set to have a medical at Villa; it would have to be conducted in Spain, as he wouldn't get a visa to come to enter the UK until he is given a work permit.

He will get a visa to travel to UK. A visa can be arranged for lots of reasons such as job interviews, holidays, private medical treatment, and business reasons.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5454 on: August 12, 2014, 12:21:39 PM »
Reading the comment below that AS article, that fan doesn't seem sorry to see him go. Says he's great at breaking up play, but in terms of passing and [salir jugando - I take to mean technical ability] he's "worse than bad".

So I guess he'd sit deep for us and just act as an enforcer?

To be honest I would rather us sign someone like Ki to anchor our midfield a la Petrov rather than a NRC type.  No idea what this Sanchez is like, 44 caps for Colombia suggests pretty good but 28 and playing for Elche doesn't suggest amazing. 

Ki is an attacking midfielder. He could never be a defensive midfielder. Far too lightweight.

He was the best player on the park at VP last season playing in a deep midfield role.  I really don't believe you need a powerhouse sitting in front of the back 4 to have a solid midfield, especially if you've got 3 players in there.  Petrov won and kept the ball for us through anticipation and good positioning not through tackles and strength.  He was more likely to get fouled than foul.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5455 on: August 12, 2014, 12:27:08 PM »
Reading the comment below that AS article, that fan doesn't seem sorry to see him go. Says he's great at breaking up play, but in terms of passing and [salir jugando - I take to mean technical ability] he's "worse than bad".

So I guess he'd sit deep for us and just act as an enforcer?

To be honest I would rather us sign someone like Ki to anchor our midfield a la Petrov rather than a NRC type.  No idea what this Sanchez is like, 44 caps for Colombia suggests pretty good but 28 and playing for Elche doesn't suggest amazing. 

Ki is an attacking midfielder. He could never be a defensive midfielder. Far too lightweight.

He was the best player on the park at VP last season playing in a deep midfield role.  I really don't believe you need a powerhouse sitting in front of the back 4 to have a solid midfield, especially if you've got 3 players in there.  Petrov won and kept the ball for us through anticipation and good positioning not through tackles and strength.  He was more likely to get fouled than foul.

I agree Ki is a cultured player but he plays very deep often dropping back to CB to get the ball.  He was excellent at VP.  In the later stages of last season I saw the odd game where Sunderland were throwing the proverbial sink at it and he ended up in attacking positions but I would not say that it is his natural position.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5456 on: August 12, 2014, 12:28:54 PM »
I would like both. A new central midfield would totally transform us, and a combination of Sanchez and Ki would be ideal really with the money we have. We need to do something a bit different in there.

Offline ashkar

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5457 on: August 12, 2014, 12:31:24 PM »
Sanchez, Ki and Moses on loan. Our midfield is dire and needs a overhaul. We need all three. Send Bennett, Herd and Clark on loan to free up some wages for the three. 

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5458 on: August 12, 2014, 12:35:51 PM »
From what I've seen he actually doesn't look very good. Would of preferred Ki but if that's what we end up with then I'll still support him.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5459 on: August 12, 2014, 12:37:13 PM »
http://franjiverdes.com/carlos-sanchez-doesnt-train-with-elche-and-is-very-close-from-aston-villa/

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Carlos Sanchez doesn’t train with Elche and is very close from Aston Villa

Carlos Sanchez is closer to English football. The Colombian footballer can join Aston Villa in the next few days. The Rock has not trained with Elche since yesterday. This fact confirms that he can leave Elche CF soon. Moreover, his representative, Diego Merino, travelled yesterday to Birmingham as an attempt to close the signing.

According to Monserrate Hernández, a journalist of the As sports newspaper of Spain, the problems are about economical issues. Aston Villa will pay 4 million euros for the midfielder, and two of them will be for Elche CF. The remaining money is for Array Europe BV, a society in Amsterdam which has his economical rights.

If Aston Villa pays two million euros for Carlos Sanchez, Elche will not earn too much money. The Spanish club paid 600,000 euros for him, 624,750 for his society and 150,000 more in commissions. The total benefit would be 600,000 euros, a very small quantity for a great player. Nevertheless, this amount of money can help Elche, who is trying to sign another footballer. Cañas, from Swansea, is the most likely signing.

The problems come with Eventos Petxina, the company that has 25% of his economical rights. With the sale of Carlos Sanchez, Elche would have to pay one million euros to them but, if Carlos Sanchez pays its cancellation clause, this won’t happen. This is what Elche is trying with The Rock and Aston Villa. In 2007, it happened the same with Seydou Keyta, in his sale from Sevilla to FC Barcelona.

PD: Sorry for my English. I’m Spanish, but I have tried to write this article in order to explain this to all the fans of Aston Villa. I promise I write so much better in Spanish

 


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