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Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5085 on: August 08, 2014, 10:13:22 AM »
If we only have ten to spend, the only issue I have with using half of it on Yacob is that I still don't think that a striker is our top perity, so if it meant spending less elsewhere I'm not sure.   

Yacob is a defensive midfielder.

Oh, so not the former Everton/Portsmouth/Mids striker?  I did think he would be a bit older than 27!

If this guy is up to much then we should buy without doubt.  Him and a good winger would do me for now.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5086 on: August 08, 2014, 10:15:24 AM »
I would have Yacob or Mulumbu.

I would have both to be honest.  Mulumbu and Delph playing either side of Yacob would be a significant upgrade on what we currently have.

How old is Yacob?  Seems to have been around forever but that might just be me.  He of course does know the league well, and if he still has his sharpness then he could be a solid short term buy.

He's 27 and according to Sky sports they would let him go for 5m

Knowing them, they would want £10m from us.  From what I remember, he had a good first season there, but has had injury problems since.   



I'd much rather us get Carlos Sanchez in. I know that he doesn't have the Premiership experience that Yacob does but he looked very accomplished for Colombia in the World Cup. if reports are to be believed he'd be cheaper than Yacob too, and probably command a lower salary.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2014, 10:32:16 AM by RussellC »

Offline Holte L2

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« Reply #5087 on: August 08, 2014, 10:32:33 AM »
We should tap into the pool of unwanted at Man Yanited.
Kagawa on-loan would be perfect. Finances permitting.
Sandro at Spurs also appears to be surplus to requirements. Another loan there, with a little help from Spurs financially would do.
Granted we'd need a little help from these clubs RE salaries.

I agree with you about tapping into the loan market, but think the likes of Kagawa and Sandro will be out of our reach. Now is the time that these deal wil happen too. The top teams will have wanted to keep their squads together for pre-season but will now know which players they're prepared to loan out.

I'd like us to try to get Joel Campbell from Arsenal. Can't see him playing much with Walcott, Sanchez and The Ox all similar players and I could see him having a major impact for us.

I don't think they would be out of reach. Providng we could get some assistance with wages. Especially considering Kagawa and Sandro have both been left off their respective clubs tours.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5088 on: August 08, 2014, 10:41:49 AM »
I can't believe that both wouldn't have more attractive offers than us though?

Offline garyshawsknee

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5089 on: August 08, 2014, 10:50:24 AM »
Neither of them would come anywhere near VP. We're not the most attractive outfit right now.

Offline richard moore

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5090 on: August 08, 2014, 11:07:28 AM »
We should tap into the pool of unwanted at Man Yanited.
Kagawa on-loan would be perfect. Finances permitting.
Sandro at Spurs also appears to be surplus to requirements. Another loan there, with a little help from Spurs financially would do.
Granted we'd need a little help from these clubs RE salaries.

I agree with you about tapping into the loan market, but think the likes of Kagawa and Sandro will be out of our reach. Now is the time that these deal wil happen too. The top teams will have wanted to keep their squads together for pre-season but will now know which players they're prepared to loan out.

I'd like us to try to get Joel Campbell from Arsenal. Can't see him playing much with Walcott, Sanchez and The Ox all similar players and I could see him having a major impact for us.

I don't think they would be out of reach. Providng we could get some assistance with wages. Especially considering Kagawa and Sandro have both been left off their respective clubs tours.

Well out of our reach I fear, they could both do much better (sadly) than us

Offline edgysatsuma89

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5091 on: August 08, 2014, 11:30:56 AM »
We should tap into the pool of unwanted at Man Yanited.
Kagawa on-loan would be perfect. Finances permitting.
Sandro at Spurs also appears to be surplus to requirements. Another loan there, with a little help from Spurs financially would do.
Granted we'd need a little help from these clubs RE salaries.

I agree with you about tapping into the loan market, but think the likes of Kagawa and Sandro will be out of our reach. Now is the time that these deal wil happen too. The top teams will have wanted to keep their squads together for pre-season but will now know which players they're prepared to loan out.

I'd like us to try to get Joel Campbell from Arsenal. Can't see him playing much with Walcott, Sanchez and The Ox all similar players and I could see him having a major impact for us.

I don't think they would be out of reach. Providng we could get some assistance with wages. Especially considering Kagawa and Sandro have both been left off their respective clubs tours.

Well out of our reach I fear, they could both do much better (sadly) than us

Those players get linked with CL clubs breadbin. Not a chance, i like the hope though.

Offline Tuscans

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5092 on: August 08, 2014, 11:40:59 AM »
I think people forget how hard it is to sign players these days. There's nothing in it for them to play for Villa, no chance of winning things, no chance of playing in Europe and no chance of earning more money than players at the likes of West Ham and QPR.

So that's where we are right now, embrace who we sign as it's not getting better for any foreseeable future.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5093 on: August 08, 2014, 11:45:31 AM »
I think people forget how hard it is to sign players these days. There's nothing in it for them to play for Villa, no chance of winning things, no chance of playing in Europe and no chance of earning more money than players at the likes of West Ham and QPR.

So that's where we are right now, embrace who we sign as it's not getting better for any foreseeable future.

Exactly. And joining a club with an uncertain ownership situation must be equally as unappealing for a player. Especially one coming in from abroad. Why uproot yourself (and potentially your family) to sign a long term deal at a club who are likely to have a new owner and Manager in the not-too-distant future?

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5094 on: August 08, 2014, 11:48:07 AM »
I think people forget how hard it is to sign players these days. There's nothing in it for them to play for Villa, no chance of winning things, no chance of playing in Europe and no chance of earning more money than players at the likes of West Ham and QPR.

So that's where we are right now, embrace who we sign as it's not getting better for any foreseeable future.

Exactly. And joining a club with an uncertain ownership situation must be equally as unappealing for a player. Especially one coming in from abroad. Why uproot yourself (and potentially your family) to sign a long term deal at a club who are likely to have a new owner and Manager in the not-too-distant future?

Couldn't you say that about lots of clubs, though?

Ultimately, anyone signing for us is going to be largely influenced by the fact that we'll have a contractual obligation to pay them £2m a year for three years.

Offline RussellC

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« Reply #5095 on: August 08, 2014, 11:59:33 AM »
I think people forget how hard it is to sign players these days. There's nothing in it for them to play for Villa, no chance of winning things, no chance of playing in Europe and no chance of earning more money than players at the likes of West Ham and QPR.

So that's where we are right now, embrace who we sign as it's not getting better for any foreseeable future.

Exactly. And joining a club with an uncertain ownership situation must be equally as unappealing for a player. Especially one coming in from abroad. Why uproot yourself (and potentially your family) to sign a long term deal at a club who are likely to have a new owner and Manager in the not-too-distant future?

Couldn't you say that about lots of clubs, though?

Ultimately, anyone signing for us is going to be largely influenced by the fact that we'll have a contractual obligation to pay them £2m a year for three years.

If we're the only club bidding for a player then yes but, as Tuscans pointed out, we're currently at a stage where the likes of QPR and West Ham are prepared to pay higher salaries than us. I'm fairly sure we can include West Brom in this too, as per the Lescott deal.

Ideally, I'm sure any player would primarily opt for a club paying high wages, with a settled manager. After that they'd be looking for a club paying high wages regardless of the stability of the manager. Unfortunately we currently offer neither, and therefore have to be realistic about the players we're bringing in.

Offline Tuscans

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #5096 on: August 08, 2014, 12:00:28 PM »
I think people forget how hard it is to sign players these days. There's nothing in it for them to play for Villa, no chance of winning things, no chance of playing in Europe and no chance of earning more money than players at the likes of West Ham and QPR.

So that's where we are right now, embrace who we sign as it's not getting better for any foreseeable future.

Exactly. And joining a club with an uncertain ownership situation must be equally as unappealing for a player. Especially one coming in from abroad. Why uproot yourself (and potentially your family) to sign a long term deal at a club who are likely to have a new owner and Manager in the not-too-distant future?

Couldn't you say that about lots of clubs, though?

Ultimately, anyone signing for us is going to be largely influenced by the fact that we'll have a contractual obligation to pay them £2m a year for three years.
Players would still chose the bright lights of London or a Newcastle or Everton over us, we're not attractive unless you're a cast off that no one really wants.

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« Reply #5097 on: August 08, 2014, 12:01:56 PM »
and yet as soon as we bring in a player like Joe Cole loads of people slag the club for signing a has-been.


Offline Tuscans

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« Reply #5098 on: August 08, 2014, 12:04:07 PM »
and yet as soon as we bring in a player like Joe Cole loads of people slag the club for signing a has-been.


That's exactly what I'm on about, be happy we're bringing in anyone with the state of the club at this present time.

Offline john e

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« Reply #5099 on: August 08, 2014, 12:14:48 PM »
how can QPR keep on buying all these players and spending millions all the time with new the fair play rules
I mean I don't really agree with the new rules but QPR cant have a very big turnover to be able to spend this much

 


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