Transfer Speculation / Gossip

[Steve67]

We'd also get a profit on Senderos, Clark, Baker, Weimann, KEA to name just a few.

Peter, sell ons from Lamberts signings. Free transfers can hardly count given that they cost nothing eh? Clark, Wiemann and Baker came through the youth system. KEA? A profit? Nah!!

[pauliewalnuts]

Lowton, Westwood, Bacuna, Luna were all around a million or less according to Lambert himself. I don't think we would lose on any of them.

Guzan who he signed we would also profit on.

Guzan was re-signed.  Can't really count him as a Lambert signing. Play fair gents please. Lowton? Off to Boro on loan, not a sale? Luna too. Why can't we sell them instead of loaning them? Is it because they are poo? Where is the profit so far? Bowers? Oops. Nope. Face it chaps. Rubbish signings.

I think the loan rather than sell thing is a decent question.

We seem totally uncapable of flogging players unless they're 20m pound players everyone wants to buy.

How many players have we sold for 0-10m in the last 5 or 6 years, I wonder?

I'd guess at about 3.

We just loan them until their contracts end. I don't see other clubs do that so much, so why do we?

[Villa in Denmark]

Stumbled across this in a strange way but we had a scout at Brugge - Brondby tonight.

http://clubbrugge.be/nl/nieuws/18556/25-scouts-voor-club-brondby

I hope to god they weren't looking at any Brøndby players, with the possible exception of Simon Makeniok, a forward who's still young enough (23) to improve further and has been getting better with each season the last 2-3 years.

The rest of them can be summed up by the fact that their next 2 best players are former WBA record signing Marten Albrechtsen and John Elmander!

[Dave]

Lowton, Westwood, Bacuna, Luna were all around a million or less according to Lambert himself. I don't think we would lose on any of them.

Guzan who he signed we would also profit on.

Guzan was re-signed.  Can't really count him as a Lambert signing. Play fair gents please. Lowton? Off to Boro on loan, not a sale? Luna too. Why can't we sell them instead of loaning them? Is it because they are poo? Where is the profit so far? Bowers? Oops. Nope. Face it chaps. Rubbish signings.

Sigh. Let's take this stupidity one at a time.

1) He had left the club. Lambert needed to sign a goalkeeper. It could have been Guzan, it could have been somebody different. The fact that Guzan had previously played for us doesn't impact at all on the fact that he was who Lambert chose to bring in.

2) We probably could sell Lowton. We might want to keep him though. I've read nothing about loaning Luna, I've heard about him potentially signing for Verona.

3) There probably isn't any profit, because we've not sold really sold anybody. Apart from...

4) Jordan Bowery. A player that we lost a whole £250,000 on.

You missed Bacuna, Okore, Kozak, and Helenius in your in-depth analysis.

[ozzjim]

What we all don't know about is the £4 million loan signing fee we're going to be getting for lowton. That'll cheer y'all up.

Seriously though, I'm not bothered. I don't buy this homesick bollocks, he's playing in the midlands not Russia (i know, some parts are like it etc). The delicate little flower.

Didn't he play in Hungary for a season too?

[Steve67]

Dave, as per, you are taking this way too seriously. Stupidity? Coming from you, a mod. Whatever!

 

[Dave]

Stupidity? Coming from you, a mod. Whatever!

Don't worry, I fully support your right to post nonsense as much as everyone else's right to post sense.

Feel free to carry on, I'll be right behind you.

[edgysatsuma89]

What we all don't know about is the £4 million loan signing fee we're going to be getting for lowton. That'll cheer y'all up.

Seriously though, I'm not bothered. I don't buy this homesick bollocks, he's playing in the midlands not Russia (i know, some parts are like it etc). The delicate little flower.

Didn't he play in Hungary for a season too?

Ozzjim, i have been enlightened. I've just wiki'd him and he did indeed in the 09/10 season. I guess he didn't have is babby back then though. If he's an issue off field then i won't be sad he's going. Well he's an issue on field, that being he's not very good.

[paul_e]

Lets go with £42m spent:

Benteke is at least on a par with Lukaku so a minimum of £28m
Vlaar would go for £10m this summer
Bacuna would be at least £4m, his freekicks alone make him worth that.

So 3 sales and we break even.

We'd get a profit on Kozak in my opinion (12 appearances and a goal every 207 minutes is a good start).
We'd get a profit on Westwood, probably £4-5m
We'd get our money back on Okore

Even if we make a loss or can't sell the rest we'd be looking at £60-65m and that's with a pretty conservative estimate on Benteke.

[Dave]

Even if we make a loss or can't sell the rest we'd be looking at £60-65m and that's with a pretty conservative estimate on Benteke.

I'd say £8m on Guzan isn't over-exaggerating either.

[SoccerHQ]

This Lambert flak with his signings baffles me. Yes there's been a few duds (tell me a manager that dosen't buy them) but come on Benteke and Vlaar for 10m was brilliant and stands up against many premier league managers for value I'd say.

[paul_e]

Stumbled across this in a strange way but we had a scout at Brugge - Brondby tonight.

http://clubbrugge.be/nl/nieuws/18556/25-scouts-voor-club-brondby

I hope to god they weren't looking at any Brøndby players, with the possible exception of Simon Makeniok, a forward who's still young enough (23) to improve further and has been getting better with each season the last 2-3 years.

The rest of them can be summed up by the fact that their next 2 best players are former WBA record signing Marten Albrechtsen and John Elmander!

Haven't Brugge got a young centre back who supposed to be a bit special?  I'm sure I saw something about them a few weeks ago.

[peter w]

Even if we make a loss or can't sell the rest we'd be looking at £60-65m and that's with a pretty conservative estimate on Benteke.

I'd say £8m on Guzan isn't over-exaggerating either.

5 0r 6 at best

Steer - 1.5m
Lowton -£2.5m
Bennett - 2m
Bacuna - 2.5m
Senderos - 4m
Vlaar - 12m (inflated price put on his neck
KEA - 3m
Richardson - 2m
Westwood - 4m
Benteke - 28m
Kozak - 7m

that still looks like a profit.

[paul_e]

Stumbled across this in a strange way but we had a scout at Brugge - Brondby tonight.

http://clubbrugge.be/nl/nieuws/18556/25-scouts-voor-club-brondby

I hope to god they weren't looking at any Brøndby players, with the possible exception of Simon Makeniok, a forward who's still young enough (23) to improve further and has been getting better with each season the last 2-3 years.

The rest of them can be summed up by the fact that their next 2 best players are former WBA record signing Marten Albrechtsen and John Elmander!

Haven't Brugge got a young centre back who supposed to be a bit special?  I'm sure I saw something about them a few weeks ago.

Quoting myself is bad but this is the kid I was on about - http://www.benefoot.net/jupiler-pro-league-revelations-4-bjorn-engels/

[SoccerHQ]

Won't Senderos be about 32 in two years time (I'm guessing but he seems to be around forever). It's a moot point but unless MON gets back in the club game, who on earth is paying 4m for him?!