Transfer Speculation / Gossip

[old man villa fan]

Frustrates me seeing a club like Everton spending £25-30m. What's our excuse for not spending any money? I know Lerner is selling the club, but surely he knows we need to buy some good players to avoid another relegation battle. Didn't we get something like £60m in TV money? Why can't we spend, say, £15m of that on transfers instead of rummaging through the bins like we have been doing.

Because we have absolutely no ambition beyond staying up, and doing so as cheaply as possible, that's why.

Unfortunately it boils down to Everton being run very sensibly for the past decade plus, whilst Randy had run us with all the sense and realism of a 12 year old before having to clear up his own mess.

Whether they actually go and fork out 25 million on Lukaku remains to be seen, but they've still got a large wedge of that Fellaini cash in their pocket, as well as the TV money. Fair play to them.

You'd imagine Everton could find a way to cope with spending that amount. Where-as, even beyond O Neill's days, we spunked 24 million on Bent, and it seems as it was a fee we couldn't really afford and are still, among other outgoings, trying to balance.

The other thing is that Everton have been good at developing good young players that they have sold for top money.  Look at their team now and see how many have come through and what they could fetch in transfer fees.

[supertom]

Frustrates me seeing a club like Everton spending £25-30m. What's our excuse for not spending any money? I know Lerner is selling the club, but surely he knows we need to buy some good players to avoid another relegation battle. Didn't we get something like £60m in TV money? Why can't we spend, say, £15m of that on transfers instead of rummaging through the bins like we have been doing.

Because we have absolutely no ambition beyond staying up, and doing so as cheaply as possible, that's why.

Unfortunately it boils down to Everton being run very sensibly for the past decade plus, whilst Randy had run us with all the sense and realism of a 12 year old before having to clear up his own mess.

Whether they actually go and fork out 25 million on Lukaku remains to be seen, but they've still got a large wedge of that Fellaini cash in their pocket, as well as the TV money. Fair play to them.

You'd imagine Everton could find a way to cope with spending that amount. Where-as, even beyond O Neill's days, we spunked 24 million on Bent, and it seems as it was a fee we couldn't really afford and are still, among other outgoings, trying to balance.

The other thing is that Everton have been good at developing good young players that they have sold for top money.  Look at their team now and see how many have come through and what they could fetch in transfer fees.

Absolutely. They've just tied Barkley down to a good contract too. On the one hand it means they keep hold of him for now, on the other it means that if a Man City or Utd want to buy him in a years time, they'll have to pay ludicrous money.

[Dante Lavelli]

Lukaku's fee reportedly £25M.  A world away from where we are right now.

Would prefer Atsu all day. But for the price of the loan fee would prefer to buy some bargain somewhere rather than assist a Chelsea player .....

I honestly think the opposite. Look at what Forsell did for the noses (basically they didn't get relegated until he started getting injuries - I think he was there on loan for about three years. I think Bertrand helped us a lot at first last year and then his form tailed off. John Terry went to Forest and as far as I know didn't end up in court at any point during his loan spell so that has to classed as a result for Forest. But on a genuinely serious note, apart from the likes of Walker and Keane I think we have under used the loan market and been left standing by other clubs in that respect. I don't praise Small Heath much but they used it well under Bruce. I know it was probably never possible due to finances but imagine if we had got Barry and Lukaku in our side last season.

I agree that we have not done well in using the loan system.  If you bring a player in on loan it has to be somebody that is professional in their approach e.g. Barry who realised he had gone as far as he could with Man City or somebody that is young and highly motivated e.g. a player like Lukaku who wanted to prove he was good enough for Chelsea or good enough to get a good transfer away from his parent club.

What you do not want is a demotivated player who only wants to go through the motions.  Usually these have typically been bought by a top 6 side but failed to make the grade and have a bit of a 'Billy Big B*******" attitude.

Our loaning out of players has not been very successful either.  With young players, you need to loan them out to clubs that are going to give them genuine game time.  It is better to loan them to a Div. 2 side and have them playing than a Championship side where they just sit on the bench.

I agree.  Furthermore I doubt Lukaku would be going to Everton if he'd not played there last year, enjoyed himself and built up a rapport with the fans.

[David_Nab]

£28million Everton have paid ...

[ozzjim]

Which once fit and firing again, puts Benteke into the mid 30 millions now.

[supertom]

Which once fit and firing again, puts Benteke into the mid 30 millions now.

Yep. It's a good marker to use.

[myf]

We're being left behind. I don't want the season to start

[supertom]

Guzan go sleepy.

EDIT- supertom also go sleepy. Wrong thread.

[Matt C]

Bertrand off to Southampton on loan.

[SoccerHQ]

Bertrand off to Southampton on loan.

From his loan, o.k player, nothing more than that.

[Tuscans]

I remember the days when us and Everton would compete a whole season for the intertoto cup.

[peter w]

Started well for us but little else. (Bertrand)

[montague]

Bertrand off to Southampton on loan.

From his loan, o.k player, nothing more than that.

Got dragged down to our level

[pauliewalnuts]

Bertrand off to Southampton on loan.

From his loan, o.k player, nothing more than that.

Got dragged down to our level

I don't even think it was that.

I just don't think he was very good.

[ozzjim]

Bertrand off to Southampton on loan.

From his loan, o.k player, nothing more than that.

Got dragged down to our level

I don't even think it was that.

I just don't think he was very good.

I thought he was pretty awful the last few weeks.