Transfer Speculation / Gossip

[manic-road]

The quote "Saints boss Ronald Koeman could derail Villa’s preparations by aggressively pursuing Vlaar" does this mean he's getting really angry about it?

[supertom]

The quote "Saints boss Ronald Koeman could derail Villa’s preparations by aggressively pursuing Vlaar" does this mean he's getting really angry about it?

He can stand there banging on the gates of the club if he wants. Unless Southampton offer us a suitable fee, Ron's going nowhere.

[Olneythelonely]

Yet I aggressively persue someone and the courts get involved.

[David_Nab]

Ki deal looking like it going no where

http://www.swanseacity.net/news/article/ki-exeter-reaction-1791296.aspx

[Dante Lavelli]

Ki deal looking like it going no where

http://www.swanseacity.net/news/article/ki-exeter-reaction-1791296.aspx

I wouldn't expect a player to say any different to be honest, just like if he joined I'd expect platitudes of "how big a club Villa is..."
At least now he's back off his holidays there's no excuses to not complete the deal or indeed move on to other targets.

[bobdylan]

BBC reporting Everton close to signing Lukaku permanently, so I'd assume Atsu will now go there on loan and we'll get Moses.

[Des Little]

Lukaku's fee reportedly £25M.  A world away from where we are right now.

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

Frustrates me seeing a club like Everton spending £25-30m. What's our excuse for not spending any money? I know Lerner is selling the club, but surely he knows we need to buy some good players to avoid another relegation battle. Didn't we get something like £60m in TV money? Why can't we spend, say, £15m of that on transfers instead of rummaging through the bins like we have been doing.

[pauliewalnuts]

Frustrates me seeing a club like Everton spending £25-30m. What's our excuse for not spending any money? I know Lerner is selling the club, but surely he knows we need to buy some good players to avoid another relegation battle. Didn't we get something like £60m in TV money? Why can't we spend, say, £15m of that on transfers instead of rummaging through the bins like we have been doing.

Because we have absolutely no ambition beyond staying up, and doing so as cheaply as possible, that's why.

[WALTERS WARRIORS]

Lukaku's fee reportedly £25M.  A world away from where we are right now.

Would prefer Atsu all day. But for the price of the loan fee would prefer to buy some bargain somewhere rather than assist a Chelsea player .....

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

Frustrates me seeing a club like Everton spending £25-30m. What's our excuse for not spending any money? I know Lerner is selling the club, but surely he knows we need to buy some good players to avoid another relegation battle. Didn't we get something like £60m in TV money? Why can't we spend, say, £15m of that on transfers instead of rummaging through the bins like we have been doing.

Because we have absolutely no ambition beyond staying up, and doing so as cheaply as possible, that's why.

Yep. It annoys me how Lerner is apparently a fan, yet has no problem leaving us in the shit year after year. I can't wait till he goes now.

[David_Nab]

Whats annoying is we wasted money on low waged players last season when if money was tight the Loan market , as shown by Everton was way to go.They improved them gave them chance to push on.

But as said above currently all we are doing is trying to stay up ..thats just where we are

[Damo70]

Lukaku's fee reportedly £25M.  A world away from where we are right now.

Would prefer Atsu all day. But for the price of the loan fee would prefer to buy some bargain somewhere rather than assist a Chelsea player .....

I honestly think the opposite. Look at what Forsell did for the noses (basically they didn't get relegated until he started getting injuries - I think he was there on loan for about three years. I think Bertrand helped us a lot at first last year and then his form tailed off. John Terry went to Forest and as far as I know didn't end up in court at any point during his loan spell so that has to classed as a result for Forest. But on a genuinely serious note, apart from the likes of Walker and Keane I think we have under used the loan market and been left standing by other clubs in that respect. I don't praise Small Heath much but they used it well under Bruce. I know it was probably never possible due to finances but imagine if we had got Barry and Lukaku in our side last season.

[old man villa fan]

Lukaku's fee reportedly £25M.  A world away from where we are right now.

Would prefer Atsu all day. But for the price of the loan fee would prefer to buy some bargain somewhere rather than assist a Chelsea player .....

I honestly think the opposite. Look at what Forsell did for the noses (basically they didn't get relegated until he started getting injuries - I think he was there on loan for about three years. I think Bertrand helped us a lot at first last year and then his form tailed off. John Terry went to Forest and as far as I know didn't end up in court at any point during his loan spell so that has to classed as a result for Forest. But on a genuinely serious note, apart from the likes of Walker and Keane I think we have under used the loan market and been left standing by other clubs in that respect. I don't praise Small Heath much but they used it well under Bruce. I know it was probably never possible due to finances but imagine if we had got Barry and Lukaku in our side last season.

I agree that we have not done well in using the loan system.  If you bring a player in on loan it has to be somebody that is professional in their approach e.g. Barry who realised he had gone as far as he could with Man City or somebody that is young and highly motivated e.g. a player like Lukaku who wanted to prove he was good enough for Chelsea or good enough to get a good transfer away from his parent club.

What you do not want is a demotivated player who only wants to go through the motions.  Usually these have typically been bought by a top 6 side but failed to make the grade and have a bit of a 'Billy Big B*******" attitude.

Our loaning out of players has not been very successful either.  With young players, you need to loan them out to clubs that are going to give them genuine game time.  It is better to loan them to a Div. 2 side and have them playing than a Championship side where they just sit on the bench.

[supertom]

Frustrates me seeing a club like Everton spending £25-30m. What's our excuse for not spending any money? I know Lerner is selling the club, but surely he knows we need to buy some good players to avoid another relegation battle. Didn't we get something like £60m in TV money? Why can't we spend, say, £15m of that on transfers instead of rummaging through the bins like we have been doing.

Because we have absolutely no ambition beyond staying up, and doing so as cheaply as possible, that's why.

Unfortunately it boils down to Everton being run very sensibly for the past decade plus, whilst Randy had run us with all the sense and realism of a 12 year old before having to clear up his own mess.

Whether they actually go and fork out 25 million on Lukaku remains to be seen, but they've still got a large wedge of that Fellaini cash in their pocket, as well as the TV money. Fair play to them.

You'd imagine Everton could find a way to cope with spending that amount. Where-as, even beyond O Neill's days, we spunked 24 million on Bent, and it seems as it was a fee we couldn't really afford and are still, among other outgoings, trying to balance.