Transfer Speculation / Gossip

[Small Rodent]

What a load of bull. Rushes to get coat.

[SoccerHQ]

Victor Moses linked

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10995378/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lambert-wants-to-sign-Chelsea-winger-Victor-Moses-on-loan-for-the-season.html

Seems we have gone back the MOM school of transfers , only prem experience players being looked at it seems.

Moses will never happen. Too many hurdles in the way of the deal.

I have to say after Sidwell I'm wary of signing these players who spent about 2 years in semi retirement at top 4 clubs.

They seem to lose hunger and motivation from understandbly getting incredibly well paid to not do a lot and the next club that picks them up then suffers, I think Scott Sinclair and Adam Johnson are other examples of this.

I'm willing to give N'zogbia another go this year purely because we lack so much creativity and pace from central and wide in the midfield area.

[RussellC]

I have to say after Sidwell I'm wary of signing these players who spent about 2 years in semi retirement at top 4 clubs.

Jack Rodwell's another example of this. The fact that the rich clubs are allowed to stock-pile players as they wish really is a problem,, not just for the competitiveness of the league, but for the individual careers of some of the young players.

[brian green]

Excellent point Russell. They are stockpiled by the richest clubs and it is to the players' detriment both personally and professionally.

[Clampy]

You would hope though that it might encourage some players to think twice before signing for clubs where they have an inkling that they might be making up the squad numbers, even if the money is good. Okore turned down Chelsea for that reason apparently.

[RussellC]

You would hope though that it might encourage some players to think twice before signing for clubs where they have an inkling that they might be making up the squad numbers, even if the money is good. Okore turned down Chelsea for that reason apparently.

It's a real shame that more don't do likewise. It's kind of understandable for a player like Milner who was at the point of his career that opting to move and play about half as many games, but doing so in a team competing for the league and in europe made sense. For the really young players (a la Rodwell) I think it's just either being advised badly (by agents wanted their cut of a transfer fee) or blind faith in their own ability.

Take Callum Chambers moving to Arsenal, just a couple of weeks after they've signed Debuchy. Does he really think that'll improve him more than staying at Southampton and getting more regular game time?

[curiousorange]

You would hope though that it might encourage some players to think twice before signing for clubs where they have an inkling that they might be making up the squad numbers, even if the money is good. Okore turned down Chelsea for that reason apparently.

Okore must be part of a very slim percentage, I think. I don't really know what to make of this Chambers lad going to Arsenal: on the one hand, he seems likely to be wasting a year or so while he gets used to a big club, but Wenger does seem to be a manager who doesn't hesitate to throw youth in if he feels they're ready. On balance, I don't begrudge a young player going to a Champions League side if that side has a record for trusting in talent. I wouldn't be impressed if they end up at Chelsea or Manchester City, though, who I feel do exactly as you say, and stockpile younger players to stop opponents benefitting from new talent.

What I've never grasped is players going to a club knowing they'll only ever be a squad player because they may get a chance to play in the Champions League or whatever. Yes, you may play in those premier competitions. But playing in a 4-0 hammering of FC Whippingboy is a lot different to being in the squad for the final. To my mind, better to be a legend at one club than an also-ran for two or three giant ones.

[john2710]

Victor Moses linked

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10995378/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lambert-wants-to-sign-Chelsea-winger-Victor-Moses-on-loan-for-the-season.html

Seems we have gone back the MOM school of transfers , only prem experience players being looked at it seems.

Moses will never happen. Too many hurdles in the way of the deal.

I wonder if he'd have a list of 10 pre-requisites before signing?

I also doubt he's the one to lead us out of the wilderness.

[mr underhill]

or into the promised land, but that was another geezer, Desmond Dekker, or something like that.

[brontebilly]

Victor Moses linked

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10995378/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lambert-wants-to-sign-Chelsea-winger-Victor-Moses-on-loan-for-the-season.html

Seems we have gone back the MOM school of transfers , only prem experience players being looked at it seems.

Moses will never happen. Too many hurdles in the way of the deal.

I have to say after Sidwell I'm wary of signing these players who spent about 2 years in semi retirement at top 4 clubs.

They seem to lose hunger and motivation from understandbly getting incredibly well paid to not do a lot and the next club that picks them up then suffers, I think Scott Sinclair and Adam Johnson are other examples of this.

I'm willing to give N'zogbia another go this year purely because we lack so much creativity and pace from central and wide in the midfield area.

Wary of Victor Moses because of a wasted year at Liverpool (he had a decent first season under Benitez at Chelsea) but willing to give Nzogbia another go after at least two years of nothing at a bottom six club 

Victor Moses was awful at Liverpool but is one of the players I wanted us to target above all this summer. Delighted if he can come in and get his career back on track with us. Only 23 and provided he is willing to work hard will be a big improvement on the likes of Weimann, Nzogbia, Tonev and Albrighton.

Ashley Young in comparison is older, more injury prone and his career has stalled since flopping at Euro 2012. Moses is a better bet for us than even Young would be imo

[LeeB]

Moses has done the square root of fuck all since he left Palace. I'd take Young and N'Zogbia over him.

[Dave]

Wary of Victor Moses because of a wasted year at Liverpool (he had a decent first season under Benitez at Chelsea) but willing to give Nzogbia another go after at least two years of nothing at a bottom six club 

What would you have expected of N'Zogbia last year?

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Moses has done the square root of fuck all since he left Palace. I'd take Young and N'Zogbia over him.

Not sure our groundsman would agree. There were corners of our pitch last season he never had to touch.

[eamonn]

I think we should be gracious and let Southampton have Moses for a crazy fee.

[N'ZMAV]

Moses is shit.