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Offline peter w

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #4290 on: July 28, 2014, 03:08:41 PM »
Those stats don't tell us anything. A wingers job is not just about scoring goals, and how does it matter about loan appearances.

And N'Zogbia spent much of his time at Newcastle playing as a full back in any case.

Not really. He certainly did fill in there but spent most of his time playing left wing/left-mid.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #4291 on: July 28, 2014, 03:15:56 PM »
Those stats don't tell us anything. A wingers job is not just about scoring goals, and how does it matter about loan appearances.

And N'Zogbia spent much of his time at Newcastle playing as a full back in any case.

Not really. He certainly did fill in there but spent most of his time playing left wing/left-mid.

Allardyce played him pretty much only at left back in his time there - half a season or so.

Not that it really makes much of a difference re either of the players and which is best, but I don't think appearances and goals scored as statistics alone say much in this case.

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« Reply #4292 on: July 28, 2014, 03:25:00 PM »
Well they do as they back me up. if they didn't I wouldn't have referred to them, posted them, and would have said that N'Zogbia played for four years as a full-back.

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« Reply #4293 on: July 28, 2014, 03:28:45 PM »

Yeah and then once again he decided that he'd rather sit on the bench then play first team football. Having never gotten near the first team at Chelsea he went on loan everywhere and then finally got his chance properly at Swansea. Then he chose to go to Man City where he must have known that he would never play in their first team.

He only has himself to blame for his mediocre career.

A bit like all those midfielders that sign for Spurzz and then wonder why they aren't getting in the first team ahead of their other 58 midfielders.

Dunno if its fair to say he chose to sit on the bench. I always assume that these players that have a good season and then sign for a showbiz team probably have the self belief to think are good enough for that level. They've usually had a lot of good press leading up to the move and when a club stumps up millions for them it must instill some confidence in their chances of first team football. That doesn't mean they are good enough of course.

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« Reply #4294 on: July 28, 2014, 03:30:33 PM »
Well they do as they back me up. if they didn't I wouldn't have referred to them, posted them, and would have said that N'Zogbia played for four years as a full-back.

No they don't.

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« Reply #4295 on: July 28, 2014, 03:31:29 PM »
Well they do as they back me up. if they didn't I wouldn't have referred to them, posted them, and would have said that N'Zogbia played for four years as a full-back.

No they don't.

yes they do

no they don't

yes they do


Came down heads. Yes they do.

Yadda yadda yadda.

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« Reply #4296 on: July 28, 2014, 03:36:29 PM »
Regardless of stats I'd rather have an on-form Moses in the side than an on-form N'Zogbia which, given his pre-season from thus far, is some way off.

They've both had stuttering careers thus far, but when Moses was playing regularly at Wigan he was a real handful, whereas I've always regarded N'Zogbia to be inconsistent, even when fit and playing regularly.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #4297 on: July 28, 2014, 03:41:33 PM »
The Villa once signed God....and now it's Moses...

:)

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« Reply #4298 on: July 28, 2014, 03:44:11 PM »

Yeah and then once again he decided that he'd rather sit on the bench then play first team football. Having never gotten near the first team at Chelsea he went on loan everywhere and then finally got his chance properly at Swansea. Then he chose to go to Man City where he must have known that he would never play in their first team.

He only has himself to blame for his mediocre career.

A bit like all those midfielders that sign for Spurzz and then wonder why they aren't getting in the first team ahead of their other 58 midfielders.

Dunno if its fair to say he chose to sit on the bench. I always assume that these players that have a good season and then sign for a showbiz team probably have the self belief to think are good enough for that level. They've usually had a lot of good press leading up to the move and when a club stumps up millions for them it must instill some confidence in their chances of first team football. That doesn't mean they are good enough of course.
I completely agree with you on this point, but I don't think it's really applicable in Sinclair's case.

As I think I've mentioned a couple of times before, he's the friend-of-a-friend (he grew up in Bath and they played in the same youth teams) and he really doesn't mind. He isn't *that* bothered about football and is quite happy for a team to pay him lots of money for plenty of shopping and Xbox time.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #4299 on: July 28, 2014, 03:46:29 PM »

Yeah and then once again he decided that he'd rather sit on the bench then play first team football. Having never gotten near the first team at Chelsea he went on loan everywhere and then finally got his chance properly at Swansea. Then he chose to go to Man City where he must have known that he would never play in their first team.

He only has himself to blame for his mediocre career.

A bit like all those midfielders that sign for Spurzz and then wonder why they aren't getting in the first team ahead of their other 58 midfielders.

Dunno if its fair to say he chose to sit on the bench. I always assume that these players that have a good season and then sign for a showbiz team probably have the self belief to think are good enough for that level. They've usually had a lot of good press leading up to the move and when a club stumps up millions for them it must instill some confidence in their chances of first team football. That doesn't mean they are good enough of course.
I completely agree with you on this point, but I don't think it's really applicable in Sinclair's case.

As I think I've mentioned a couple of times before, he's the friend-of-a-friend (he grew up in Bath and they played in the same youth teams) and he really doesn't mind. He isn't *that* bothered about football and is quite happy for a team to pay him lots of money for plenty of shopping and Xbox time.

We've signed Moses?  Did I miss something?

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #4300 on: July 28, 2014, 03:49:08 PM »
Victor Moses linked

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10995378/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lambert-wants-to-sign-Chelsea-winger-Victor-Moses-on-loan-for-the-season.html

Seems we have gone back the MOM school of transfers , only prem experience players being looked at it seems.

Moses will never happen. Too many hurdles in the way of the deal.

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« Reply #4301 on: July 28, 2014, 04:06:28 PM »
Victor Moses linked

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10995378/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lambert-wants-to-sign-Chelsea-winger-Victor-Moses-on-loan-for-the-season.html

Seems we have gone back the MOM school of transfers , only prem experience players being looked at it seems.

Moses will never happen. Too many hurdles in the way of the deal.

Wants to stay at Liverpool.

Apparently, he doesn't want to depart the reds, see.

Online Richard E

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #4302 on: July 28, 2014, 04:07:21 PM »
Victor Moses linked

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10995378/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lambert-wants-to-sign-Chelsea-winger-Victor-Moses-on-loan-for-the-season.html

Seems we have gone back the MOM school of transfers , only prem experience players being looked at it seems.

Moses will never happen. Too many hurdles in the way of the deal.

Wants to stay at Liverpool.

Apparently, he doesn't want to depart the reds, see.

All right, no need to get excited about it. Keep your Aaron.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #4303 on: July 28, 2014, 04:21:25 PM »
Victor Moses linked

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/10995378/Aston-Villa-manager-Paul-Lambert-wants-to-sign-Chelsea-winger-Victor-Moses-on-loan-for-the-season.html

Seems we have gone back the MOM school of transfers , only prem experience players being looked at it seems.

Moses will never happen. Too many hurdles in the way of the deal.

Wants to stay at Liverpool.

Apparently, he doesn't want to depart the reds, see.

There won't be a mass exodus then?

Offline brian green

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #4304 on: July 28, 2014, 04:28:13 PM »
A certain Gizeh is bound to buy Moses.

 


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