Transfer Speculation / Gossip

[brian green]

That everything is an assumption is true but I would feel a lot happier facing the start of the season with a greater sense of security. I can live with a poor manager, I can live with the club being on sale, I can live with bargain basement signings. It is the uncertainty I find hardest to endure.

[walsall villain]

Our squad is complete and utter gash. Think some posters here are starting to exhibit symptoms of Stockholm syndrome if they believe anything else. Cole, Richardson and Senderos would honestly struggle in the championship.

We have a good keeper. I'm really looking forward to seeing Okore. I've never been a fan of Vlaar but he can't be any worse with Okore next to him. Delph is a good midfielder but not good enough to be a one man midfield. This time last year, we were praising Gabby and Weimann to the heavens. But an injury prone Gabby losing his pace is not going to get goals, Weimann at his best is a second striker, at his worst he should be nowhere near the division. Nzogbia to get back the form pre Villa....clutching at straws aren't we. No goals, woeful midfield, perennial problems at full back

Aside from the new signings - Stevens, Hutton, Baker, Kea, Gardner, Herd for starters would all struggle to get moves to a decent championship sides. Can't see anything but relegation for us this term and honestly we could well be bottom at Xmas

I agree with most of this. Yes we have more players at our disposal this year but I can only see two of those players improving us. Okore would be one and perhaps Richardson too. Hutton and Bent? They were poor for us two years ago so how will it be different this time around. I know there is a view that Bent just needs better service but I think the three Fulham managers who didn't rate him last season were right. Senderos is the sort of slow centre back you hope lines up for the opposition. Cole? Would love to be proved wrong but it's 3 years too late.
Not sure about 'bottom by Xmas', I have still hanging on to the faint hope that we will bring in a couple of players that would genuinely improve us.

 N'Zogbia improves us for me as well, a much better option than Tonev or Bowery even if just from the bench and whilst Senderos doesn't excite me he's definitely better than Baker.

N'Zogbia on his day is an improvement yes but I can't see him starting each week and playing consistently well, would be a real boost if he could but he only seems to show glimpses of talent. Senderos v Baker?  For me neither should be starting week after week at premiership level. If we get injuries it could be Senderos AND Baker, that would petrify me.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

http://www.teamtalk.com/premier-league/9390421/Transfer-news-Javier-Saviola-eyes-Premier-League-move

another player we have been continually linked with in the past

[bobdylan]

Our squad is complete and utter gash. Think some posters here are starting to exhibit symptoms of Stockholm syndrome if they believe anything else. Cole, Richardson and Senderos would honestly struggle in the championship.

We have a good keeper. I'm really looking forward to seeing Okore. I've never been a fan of Vlaar but he can't be any worse with Okore next to him. Delph is a good midfielder but not good enough to be a one man midfield. This time last year, we were praising Gabby and Weimann to the heavens. But an injury prone Gabby losing his pace is not going to get goals, Weimann at his best is a second striker, at his worst he should be nowhere near the division. Nzogbia to get back the form pre Villa....clutching at straws aren't we. No goals, woeful midfield, perennial problems at full back

Aside from the new signings - Stevens, Hutton, Baker, Kea, Gardner, Herd for starters would all struggle to get moves to a decent championship sides. Can't see anything but relegation for us this term and honestly we could well be bottom at Xmas

I agree with most of this. Yes we have more players at our disposal this year but I can only see two of those players improving us. Okore would be one and perhaps Richardson too. Hutton and Bent? They were poor for us two years ago so how will it be different this time around. I know there is a view that Bent just needs better service but I think the three Fulham managers who didn't rate him last season were right. Senderos is the sort of slow centre back you hope lines up for the opposition. Cole? Would love to be proved wrong but it's 3 years too late.
Not sure about 'bottom by Xmas', I have still hanging on to the faint hope that we will bring in a couple of players that would genuinely improve us.

 N'Zogbia improves us for me as well, a much better option than Tonev or Bowery even if just from the bench and whilst Senderos doesn't excite me he's definitely better than Baker.

N'Zogbia on his day is an improvement yes but I can't see him starting each week and playing consistently well, would be a real boost if he could but he only seems to show glimpses of talent. Senderos v Baker?  For me neither should be starting week after week at premiership level. If we get injuries it could be Senderos AND Baker, that would petrify me.

True, but 2 years ago we had Herd, Baker and Clark at the back (with Vlaar injured), last year we had Baker, Clark Vlaar (with Okore injured) and now we have Okore Vlaar and Senderos (with Clark and Baker as back up) so we're certainly strengthening in that department imo.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

Our squad is complete and utter gash. Think some posters here are starting to exhibit symptoms of Stockholm syndrome if they believe anything else. Cole, Richardson and Senderos would honestly struggle in the championship.

We have a good keeper. I'm really looking forward to seeing Okore. I've never been a fan of Vlaar but he can't be any worse with Okore next to him. Delph is a good midfielder but not good enough to be a one man midfield. This time last year, we were praising Gabby and Weimann to the heavens. But an injury prone Gabby losing his pace is not going to get goals, Weimann at his best is a second striker, at his worst he should be nowhere near the division. Nzogbia to get back the form pre Villa....clutching at straws aren't we. No goals, woeful midfield, perennial problems at full back

Aside from the new signings - Stevens, Hutton, Baker, Kea, Gardner, Herd for starters would all struggle to get moves to a decent championship sides. Can't see anything but relegation for us this term and honestly we could well be bottom at Xmas

I agree with most of this. Yes we have more players at our disposal this year but I can only see two of those players improving us. Okore would be one and perhaps Richardson too. Hutton and Bent? They were poor for us two years ago so how will it be different this time around. I know there is a view that Bent just needs better service but I think the three Fulham managers who didn't rate him last season were right. Senderos is the sort of slow centre back you hope lines up for the opposition. Cole? Would love to be proved wrong but it's 3 years too late.
Not sure about 'bottom by Xmas', I have still hanging on to the faint hope that we will bring in a couple of players that would genuinely improve us.

 N'Zogbia improves us for me as well, a much better option than Tonev or Bowery even if just from the bench and whilst Senderos doesn't excite me he's definitely better than Baker.

N'Zogbia on his day is an improvement yes but I can't see him starting each week and playing consistently well, would be a real boost if he could but he only seems to show glimpses of talent. Senderos v Baker?  For me neither should be starting week after week at premiership level. If we get injuries it could be Senderos AND Baker, that would petrify me.

True, but 2 years ago we had Herd, Baker and Clark at the back (with Vlaar injured), last year we had Baker, Clark Vlaar (with Okore injured) and now we have Okore Vlaar and Senderos (with Clark and Baker as back up) so we're certainly strengthening in that department imo.

I just hope that Senderos wasn't bought as a Vlaar replacement

[supertom]

http://www.teamtalk.com/premier-league/9390421/Transfer-news-Javier-Saviola-eyes-Premier-League-move

another player we have been continually linked with in the past

Jesus, he must be 50 by now and using a zimmer frame.
Which of course means he'll probably be our next signing.

[edgysatsuma89]

I think if Vlaar stays we'll be alright and agree with Tom there are so many shit teams it's by no means certain we'll be 'bottom by xmas' even if i understand his pessimism.

I know vlaar isn't the best CB in the world, and getting something like £10m in his final year would be good business but we would have to buy someone to replace him who has prem experience, we don't have time for adjustment. And as we all know home club prices are batshit. All this though there is zero evidence he wants to leave even if it seems probable.

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

I'd somehow missed the fact that we'd nabbed two youngsters from Southampton's academy:

http://7500toholte.sbnation.com/2014/5/18/5728590/aston-villa-southampton-academy-tom-leggett-isaac-nehemie

[Pat McMahon]

I like my clubs considerate  and generous approach in giving shelters to clubless players.

Aftab, you  mean something like this?

Give me your tired, your poor,
 Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
 The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
 Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
 I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[martin@ardenley]

I'd somehow missed the fact that we'd nabbed two youngsters from Southampton's academy:

hxxp://7500toholte.sbnation.com/2014/5/18/5728590/aston-villa-southampton-academy-tom-leggett-isaac-nehemie

Keep up

[eamonn]

Saviola is exactly the type of signing you would expect QPR to make.

[supertom]

Saviola is exactly the type of signing you would expect QPR to make.

I clicked on that link wholly expecting their name to be down there. It's also exactly the sort of signing that Redknapp complained about when he took over the club, and then proceeded to continue signing in the vast majority of his purchases.

[edgysatsuma89]

Saviola is exactly the type of signing you would expect QPR to make.

I clicked on that link wholly expecting their name to be down there. It's also exactly the sort of signing that Redknapp complained about when he took over the club, and then proceeded to continue signing in the vast majority of his purchases.

Just reading his name makes me think of a scrotum. A dodgy scrotum.

[Brian Taylor]

Considering what the 'upper' opposition are doing we will be lucky to be mid-table next season. Happy to be mid-table, I imagine. Another doldrum season. Sell, Randy. and let them bring in some proper dosh before it is too late!!

[pauliewalnuts]

Saviola is exactly the type of signing you would expect QPR to make.

On 120k a week, 6 year contract.

I hate QPR, terribly run, I hope they go straight back down again.