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Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3060 on: July 11, 2014, 07:39:27 AM »
On Kieran Richardson, let me just ask this

We're playing stoke away first game and have luna, Bennett and Richardson to pick from. Imagine the game is tomorrow. Who do you pick at left back?

I pick Richardson

Malandro

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3061 on: July 11, 2014, 07:42:59 AM »
No I don't understand the irony in "sneering" (a tediously unoriginal insult, but I expect no less) about people who regard football as one of several expensive leisure interests and can afford to treat it as such, and saying that the Villa shouldn't expect to rely on regular handouts from the club's owner, regardless of how many games he attends. I read that sentence again. You were wrong.
That is exactly what Lerner's attitude to this club has been.  Can you not see that?

I have no idea what his attitude has been, and neither have you. There are people on here and elsewhere who are still convinced that he's been earning out of the Villa since 2006 and will walk away in profit. Some think he gave up interest in 2010, others more recently. None of us know the ins and outs of what's going on and therefore it's hard to compare and find ironies in anything.

I've no doubt he was planning on selling by 2010. I was told when Martin left and think time has proved that.
A lot of events since then have badly backfired for him - but that's what happens when you have no grasp of the industry you work in.

I don't feel any sympathy at all for him, but don't deny the money he has thrown away.







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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3062 on: July 11, 2014, 08:32:31 AM »
I don't dispute Lerner has pumped a lot of money into the club, but now is a time when we really need it and he needs to protect his investment.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3063 on: July 11, 2014, 08:53:11 AM »
The tabloids are amusing with this list of players we're apparently unloading to 'boost funds'. Firstly I don't see why there would be many, if any, takers for those players and secondly they're not exactly going to raise vasts sums either if they do sell.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3064 on: July 11, 2014, 08:54:17 AM »
On Kieran Richardson, let me just ask this

We're playing stoke away first game and have luna, Bennett and Richardson to pick from. Imagine the game is tomorrow. Who do you pick at left back?

I pick Richardson

I also pick Richardson.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3065 on: July 11, 2014, 08:55:42 AM »
But how much money has Lerner pumped in? And how much has he written off? I'm not assuming a position on this, because I honestly don't know.

All I know is that he stands to receive at least double what he paid for the club as-and-when he sells. Will this approximate £65m not more-than-cover whatever money he has put into the club? And has he been taking a salary out of the club while he's been here?

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3066 on: July 11, 2014, 08:58:18 AM »
The tabloids are amusing with this list of players we're apparently unloading to 'boost funds'. Firstly I don't see why there would be many, if any, takers for those players and secondly they're not exactly going to raise vasts sums either if they do sell.

We showed a spectacular inability to offload the players we didn't want last season.  If we have any players that we want even less than that bunch I have absolutely zero faith in the club to be able to move them on.

That's what I don't get about those who still think we're going to be spending a bit of money this summer. I make it that we only have 2/3 places left within our 25-man squad, and unless we can move players on, I can't see Randy sanctioning adding to the wage-bill, let alone outlaying on transfer fees.

Offline papa lazarou

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3067 on: July 11, 2014, 08:58:56 AM »
On Kieran Richardson, let me just ask this

We're playing stoke away first game and have luna, Bennett and Richardson to pick from. Imagine the game is tomorrow. Who do you pick at left back?

I pick Richardson

I also pick Richardson.
I also pick Richardson and so does my wife.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3068 on: July 11, 2014, 09:01:16 AM »
On Kieran Richardson, let me just ask this

We're playing stoke away first game and have luna, Bennett and Richardson to pick from. Imagine the game is tomorrow. Who do you pick at left back?

I pick Richardson

I also pick Richardson.
I also pick Richardson and so does my wife.

I pick Richardson. I also pick senderos above Baker. I guess the point, however, is that I'd have picked Bertrand and Lescott above both of them.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3069 on: July 11, 2014, 09:01:55 AM »
But how much money has Lerner pumped in? And how much has he written off? I'm not assuming a position on this, because I honestly don't know.

All I know is that he stands to receive at least double what he paid for the club as-and-when he sells. Will this approximate £65m not more-than-cover whatever money he has put into the club? And has he been taking a salary out of the club while he's been here?

It'll nowhere near cover it and in all seriousness, hasn't the "Does he take money out?" question been answered often enough?

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3070 on: July 11, 2014, 09:09:08 AM »
But how much money has Lerner pumped in? And how much has he written off? I'm not assuming a position on this, because I honestly don't know.

All I know is that he stands to receive at least double what he paid for the club as-and-when he sells. Will this approximate £65m not more-than-cover whatever money he has put into the club? And has he been taking a salary out of the club while he's been here?

It'll nowhere near cover it and in all seriousness, hasn't the "Does he take money out?" question been answered often enough?

If it has I've missed it. You do know you're not obliged to respond to my question if it's too much trouble for you?

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3071 on: July 11, 2014, 09:14:00 AM »
On Kieran Richardson, let me just ask this

We're playing stoke away first game and have luna, Bennett and Richardson to pick from. Imagine the game is tomorrow. Who do you pick at left back?

I pick Richardson

I also pick Richardson.
I also pick Richardson and so does my wife.
Good choice Mrs papa lazarou

Offline mattjpa

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3072 on: July 11, 2014, 09:18:30 AM »
So tell me this; if Stoke, Hull, Sunderland, West Brom (probably our 4 main rivals) bring in new players on free transfers alone and put all of the tv money in the bank does that not make them self sufficient as well? I cant believe any of their player wage outgoings are higher than the tv money/prize money being paid out.

If you are not going to invest to become sustainable, being self sufficient really isnt anything to shout about. On the contrary, it will eventually catch up with you...

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3073 on: July 11, 2014, 09:19:42 AM »
But how much money has Lerner pumped in? And how much has he written off? I'm not assuming a position on this, because I honestly don't know.

All I know is that he stands to receive at least double what he paid for the club as-and-when he sells. Will this approximate £65m not more-than-cover whatever money he has put into the club? And has he been taking a salary out of the club while he's been here?

It'll nowhere near cover it and in all seriousness, hasn't the "Does he take money out?" question been answered often enough?

If it has I've missed it. You do know you're not obliged to respond to my question if it's too much trouble for you?

He doesn't, and never has, taken a penny out. There was a year when we paid 8 million in management fees to another of his companies but that's it. I'm not sure of the exact figure he's put in but 250 million would be in the rough area.

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #3074 on: July 11, 2014, 09:28:29 AM »
On Kieran Richardson, let me just ask this

We're playing stoke away first game and have luna, Bennett and Richardson to pick from. Imagine the game is tomorrow. Who do you pick at left back?

I pick Richardson

I also pick Richardson.
I also pick Richardson and so does my wife.

I pick Richardson and so does our cat and Mrs Johnson at number 34. Ahmed my friendly turf accountant is of the same opinion.

 


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