Transfer Speculation / Gossip

[dekko]

I wonder what our season ticket sales are now compared to say, the summer after we signed Carew and Young in January? I don't know a single person that has renewed.

Hopefully in 5 years time we'll be a proper club again and visiting fans will sing 'where were you when you were shit?' at us.

Not watching, in your case.

Indeed. Although I have been there for the last three seasons, when we were also shit. Only these remarkable circumstances have pushed me over the edge.

You'll stop watching the team, fair enough.  Any chance you'll stop posting too?

[ciggiesnbeer]

Keane, Senderos, Richardson and  Cole in
Faulkner gone
No sale
Lambert still here

So the strategy is keep our PL status on a shoestring, we have gone from young and hungry and not very good to not very good and not very hungry.

PREPARED for what exactly?

I would list these as positives regardless of our position as a club.

[ChicagoLion]

I wonder what our season ticket sales are now compared to say, the summer after we signed Carew and Young in January? I don't know a single person that has renewed.

Hopefully in 5 years time we'll be a proper club again and visiting fans will sing 'where were you when you were shit?' at us.

Not watching, in your case.

Indeed. Although I have been there for the last three seasons, when we were also shit. Only these remarkable circumstances have pushed me over the edge.

You'll stop watching the team, fair enough.  Any chance you'll stop posting too?

Why should he?

[caster troy]

I wonder what our season ticket sales are now compared to say, the summer after we signed Carew and Young in January? I don't know a single person that has renewed.

Hopefully in 5 years time we'll be a proper club again and visiting fans will sing 'where were you when you were shit?' at us.

Not watching, in your case.

Indeed. Although I have been there for the last three seasons, when we were also shit. Only these remarkable circumstances have pushed me over the edge.

The remarkable circumstances of supporting a team that isn't very good?

I've had a season ticket every year since 95-96, there have been plenty of times in that period where we haven't been very good but I still renewed. This year I have moved away from Birmingham and finding the will to make the effort to get back to games is impossible given the fact that  a) we have a manager who I don't rate and whose tactics I despise b) most of our players are terrible c) the owner has put the club on life support systems only

Last year I dreaded going to Villa Park, I need a break. I know I'm not going to win supporter of the year but I'm not going to make myself miserable just to tick the box that says 'I was there.'

[silhillvilla]

I'd rather be us than arsenal. They were stinging their own fans £165 a seat for the Bayern game , greedy bastards and I know season tickets start at about £2k there. If we ever end up like that then that's it, success or no success , that's just madness .

[dave.woodhall]

I wonder what our season ticket sales are now compared to say, the summer after we signed Carew and Young in January? I don't know a single person that has renewed.

Hopefully in 5 years time we'll be a proper club again and visiting fans will sing 'where were you when you were shit?' at us.

Not watching, in your case.

Indeed. Although I have been there for the last three seasons, when we were also shit. Only these remarkable circumstances have pushed me over the edge.

The remarkable circumstances of supporting a team that isn't very good?

I've had a season ticket every year since 95-96, there have been plenty of times in that period where we haven't been very good but I still renewed. This year I have moved away from Birmingham and finding the will to make the effort to get back to games is impossible given the fact that  a) we have a manager who I don't rate and whose tactics I despise b) most of our players are terrible c) the owner has put the club on life support systems only

Last year I dreaded going to Villa Park, I need a break. I know I'm not going to win supporter of the year but I'm not going to make myself miserable just to tick the box that says 'I was there.'

See you when we're good then.

[hilts_coolerking]

This 'better fan than yow' stuff is really lame.

[dave.woodhall]

I'd rather be us than arsenal. They were stinging their own and £165 a seat for the Bayern game , greedy bastards and I know season tickets start at about £2k there. If we ever end up like that then that's it, success or no success , that's just madness .

It's not £2k, but it's in the region of a grand and as we've said before, there's a lot of their supporters who will happily shell that out for six or seven games a season and not bother with the rest. And the club knows that if Tarquin & Algernon from Islington don't pay it, the Screwthepoor, Ruineconomy & Laughatit merchant bank will buy the tickets for clients. All debate about the merits and otherwise of owners/managers/players aside, that's the level of opposition we're up against now.

[Steve67]

Meanwhile, in the transfer speculation thread.......

[caster troy]

I wonder what our season ticket sales are now compared to say, the summer after we signed Carew and Young in January? I don't know a single person that has renewed.

Hopefully in 5 years time we'll be a proper club again and visiting fans will sing 'where were you when you were shit?' at us.

Not watching, in your case.

Indeed. Although I have been there for the last three seasons, when we were also shit. Only these remarkable circumstances have pushed me over the edge.

The remarkable circumstances of supporting a team that isn't very good?

I've had a season ticket every year since 95-96, there have been plenty of times in that period where we haven't been very good but I still renewed. This year I have moved away from Birmingham and finding the will to make the effort to get back to games is impossible given the fact that  a) we have a manager who I don't rate and whose tactics I despise b) most of our players are terrible c) the owner has put the club on life support systems only

Last year I dreaded going to Villa Park, I need a break. I know I'm not going to win supporter of the year but I'm not going to make myself miserable just to tick the box that says 'I was there.'

See you when we're good then.

We don't need to *be* good, I just need to have hope that we *might* be good, or recognise that the club are at least trying to be good.

[dave.woodhall]

I wonder what our season ticket sales are now compared to say, the summer after we signed Carew and Young in January? I don't know a single person that has renewed.

Hopefully in 5 years time we'll be a proper club again and visiting fans will sing 'where were you when you were shit?' at us.

Not watching, in your case.

Indeed. Although I have been there for the last three seasons, when we were also shit. Only these remarkable circumstances have pushed me over the edge.

The remarkable circumstances of supporting a team that isn't very good?

I've had a season ticket every year since 95-96, there have been plenty of times in that period where we haven't been very good but I still renewed. This year I have moved away from Birmingham and finding the will to make the effort to get back to games is impossible given the fact that  a) we have a manager who I don't rate and whose tactics I despise b) most of our players are terrible c) the owner has put the club on life support systems only

Last year I dreaded going to Villa Park, I need a break. I know I'm not going to win supporter of the year but I'm not going to make myself miserable just to tick the box that says 'I was there.'

See you when we're good then.

We don't need to *be* good, I just need to have hope that we *might* be good, or recognise that the club are at least trying to be good.

Let's hope they meet your standards soon.

[paul_e]

Well, if you ignore the Arsenal part, the bit about us mooking around the bargain bins in Poundstretcher is still worth comment.

Yet more proof the disengagement of our owner is now total.

Who'd have thought it, that he'd go from how he used to be to what he is now.

When Randy took over I never thought for a moment that we'd be spending £35M on a player.  But equally I never thought we'd get to the point where we were signing - exclusively - free 30+ has-beens.

I genuinely can't fathom how a man as wealthy as Lerner has let the club get into this position.

Joe Cole - 32 - free
Phillippe Senderos - 29 - free
Kieron Richardson - 29 - undisclosed fee (if/when it goes ahead)

That's pedantic of me I'm sure but so be it, if you can twist facts to make your outrage all the more acceptable then I see no issue with calling you out on it.

As for Lerner, he's already put a fortune into the club, why have you got such a problem with him deciding enough is enough.  Feel free to criticise how that money was used but demanding he dip into his pocket every year is just silly.

[kippaxvilla2]

Am I too naive to think the following could feasibly play out.  Say someone bids for Vlaar and we say he isn't for sale.  We do so knowing he can walk out for free in a years time.  But we also do so based on a not outlandish assumption that by this time next year we have been sold to owners with investment.  At that time it is perfectly feasible that Vlaar would see ambition again and choose to stay or, more feasibly we would have funds for a better quality replacement.

[silhillvilla]

I know us fans of avfc are all a bit close to the current "situation" , but if you just pause for a moment, take a step back and absorb what's going on, the club is an absolute shambles and from the outside looking in you'd guarantee it's just a ticking time bomb now.

[caster troy]

I wonder what our season ticket sales are now compared to say, the summer after we signed Carew and Young in January? I don't know a single person that has renewed.

Hopefully in 5 years time we'll be a proper club again and visiting fans will sing 'where were you when you were shit?' at us.

Not watching, in your case.

Indeed. Although I have been there for the last three seasons, when we were also shit. Only these remarkable circumstances have pushed me over the edge.

You'll stop watching the team, fair enough.  Any chance you'll stop posting too?

When you are castigated for being too negative in these circumstances, it probably is time to quit.