Transfer Speculation / Gossip

[glasses]

The club currently seem to be treating him as that, Dave. Or at least marketting him in that way.

I wouldn't say Lescott is a Big name either to be honest.

[dave shelley]

Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink, now that's a big name.

[Dr Butler]

If Lescott hadn't spent the last twelve months warming the bench then I have no doubt he's be in Brazil now. Credit to the Albion on this one, good signing. Did we need him? Not if Okore is fit to start the season imo.

If Lescott was that great he probably wouldn't have spent the last twelve months warming the bench.

As opposed to what Senderos has been doing...?

Fair point. But I'm not really saying that Senderos is a marquee signing, just that I can't get too worked up about the fact that we haven't signed Lescott.

Same here. Had it been that he had the choice between us and them and chose them, then that'd be worth the ire.

For me it's more about the fact that we had the choice between Senderos and Lescott and went for Senderos!

one is at the World Cup with his national team and the other sits on the Man City bench....I would rather have Senderos to be honest.

[Goldie.7]

If Lescott hadn't spent the last twelve months warming the bench then I have no doubt he's be in Brazil now. Credit to the Albion on this one, good signing. Did we need him? Not if Okore is fit to start the season imo.

If Lescott was that great he probably wouldn't have spent the last twelve months warming the bench.

As opposed to what Senderos has been doing...?

Fair point. But I'm not really saying that Senderos is a marquee signing, just that I can't get too worked up about the fact that we haven't signed Lescott.

Same here. Had it been that he had the choice between us and them and chose them, then that'd be worth the ire.

For me it's more about the fact that we had the choice between Senderos and Lescott and went for Senderos!

How people can rate Okore as our defensive saviour is beyond me, he's played one and a quarter premiership games, Lescott has years of experience it's a no-brainer who i'd have at the back with Vlaar. Senderos will be just as bad as Clark & Baker if not worse imo.

[godzvilla]

If Lescott hadn't spent the last twelve months warming the bench then I have no doubt he's be in Brazil now. Credit to the Albion on this one, good signing. Did we need him? Not if Okore is fit to start the season imo.

If Lescott was that great he probably wouldn't have spent the last twelve months warming the bench.

As opposed to what Senderos has been doing...?

Fair point. But I'm not really saying that Senderos is a marquee signing, just that I can't get too worked up about the fact that we haven't signed Lescott.

Same here. Had it been that he had the choice between us and them and chose them, then that'd be worth the ire.

For me it's more about the fact that we had the choice between Senderos and Lescott and went for Senderos!

How people can rate Okore as our defensive saviour is beyond me, he's played one and a quarter premiership games, Lescott has years of experience it's a no-brainer who i'd have at the back with Vlaar. Senderos will be just as bad as Clark & Baker if not worse imo.

I,m sorry but to make that assumption  re Clarke & Baker vs Senderos is beyond silly , 2 comparatively young defenders as opposed to a seasoned Centre Half with more International and European Competition experience that the whole of our first team combined ( Vlaar excepted ) .
...............Godzvilla!

[achilles]

If Lescott hadn't spent the last twelve months warming the bench then I have no doubt he's be in Brazil now. Credit to the Albion on this one, good signing. Did we need him? Not if Okore is fit to start the season imo.

If Lescott was that great he probably wouldn't have spent the last twelve months warming the bench.

As opposed to what Senderos has been doing...?

Fair point. But I'm not really saying that Senderos is a marquee signing, just that I can't get too worked up about the fact that we haven't signed Lescott.

Same here. Had it been that he had the choice between us and them and chose them, then that'd be worth the ire.

For me it's more about the fact that we had the choice between Senderos and Lescott and went for Senderos!

one is at the World Cup with his national team and the other sits on the Man City bench....I would rather have Senderos to be honest.

Or the other way of looking at it is that Senderos couldn't get a game for a relegated Premiership side and spent the last half of the season on loan at Valencia (who didn't want to sign him) or Lescott who played 24 games for the Premiership side that WON the league and have a multi-million pound squad that requires a lot of them sit on the bench!

[KevinGage]

Quality over quantity. 

Lescott could have fixed a problem position for us at a stroke - either as a left sided CB or by giving us the option of playing Lescott, Vlaar and Okore in a back three. 

Instead, we now have two players on the books who will do well to complete 15 games each this season. 

In terms of utilising our limited resources, it doesn't look like great business.

Even if the ownership situation changes before August and the calibre of player we can aim for increases, Lescott would still be a valuable asset to any team in transition. 

[ozzjim]

And both made a fair amount of mistakes. I wanted Lescott a lot, but he would have had to improve his form a huge amount, as he will at Albion, to be the player he was a couple of years ago. He relied on pace, and got found out on it last season, Senderos never has. In a 3 I think Senderos, Vlaar and Okore will be fine, that is a mid table defence. What we need is a holding midfielder that can actually tackle and track runners!

[supertom]

I'm sure we weren't the only option that was open to Senderos. He's in his peak years in his position. He's not a bad player. Valencia don't have a lot of money so I doubt they could have afforded him a permanent deal. We don't know whether they did make an offer though, but I suspect staying in the Premiership was probably more of an enticing deal.
Lescott hasn't been great for a couple of years now. I don't think he'd be the instant fix we'd have hoped for. I think he's a hell of a gamble on what he's being paid. The difference between ourselves and West Brom for example is, they don't have a decent CH at the club right now. We still have Ron Vlaar who is a decent player.

Would I rather have Lescott or Senderos in a straight up choice? Honestly, probably Lescott. It's not that simple though. It's Senderos for 25k a week, or Lescott for at least twice that, and two years older. With the money involved I'm happy with Senderos. That 25k a week saved that it would have cost to get Lescott too, can be used to sign a decent midfielder. We're in more dire need of a really quality midfielder than a quality center half in my opinion.

I don't think Senderos or Lescott are instant fix sort of players. Neither is quite good enough for that, and whilst Lescott is certainly the better player historically, he's coming up 32, off the back of two seasons of indifferent form for City.

The more significant chunk of our budget needs to go into midfield and fullback positions.

[RussellC]

Vlaar, Senderos and Okore a mid-table defence? The first has never finished in the top half. The second has never been a regular starter for any team he's been at. The third has played 3 Premiership games.

[RussellC]

I'm sure we weren't the only option that was open to Senderos. He's in his peak years in his position. He's not a bad player. Valencia don't have a lot of money so I doubt they could have afforded him a permanent deal.

I think it's actually that Valencia have just been taken over and are now looking to bring in significantly better players than Senderos.

[supertom]

I'm sure we weren't the only option that was open to Senderos. He's in his peak years in his position. He's not a bad player. Valencia don't have a lot of money so I doubt they could have afforded him a permanent deal.

I think it's actually that Valencia have just been taken over and are now looking to bring in significantly better players than Senderos.

Well that's fair enough. Lucky them.

[glasses]

Vlaar, Senderos and Okore a mid-table defence? The first has never finished in the top half. The second has never been a regular starter for any team he's been at. The third has played 3 Premiership games.

Don't worry, Russell. This time last season we were comparing our squad to that of the current champions Man Utd, and saying we wouldn't swap any for theirs. This is the thread where dreams are made

[RussellC]

I'm sure we weren't the only option that was open to Senderos. He's in his peak years in his position. He's not a bad player. Valencia don't have a lot of money so I doubt they could have afforded him a permanent deal.

I think it's actually that Valencia have just been taken over and are now looking to bring in significantly better players than Senderos.

Well that's fair enough. Lucky them.

If only it were us, eh?!

[Gregorys Boy]

It doesn't matter that Lescott is not a big name, he would have improved us no end.  Him and Vlaar (should Vlaar stay) would be a have been a great partnership.  That West Brom have got him and we have settled for Senderos just shows the difference between the two clubs right now.