Quote from: PaulWinch again on May 20, 2014, 08:08:52 PMVlaar is fine and the least of our problems.Granted we have a lot of problems but surely it is worth reviewing the efforts of our captain at the back over the past two seasons (130 league goals conceded)?How good do others think Vlaar is?Id rank him somewhere between average at best and a lumbering, injury prone, responsibility dodging, charlatan at his worstThe same description could apply to our "leader" up front - Gabby Agbonlahor
Vlaar is fine and the least of our problems.
Quote from: brontebilly on May 20, 2014, 08:17:44 PMQuote from: PaulWinch again on May 20, 2014, 08:08:52 PMVlaar is fine and the least of our problems.Granted we have a lot of problems but surely it is worth reviewing the efforts of our captain at the back over the past two seasons (130 league goals conceded)?How good do others think Vlaar is?Id rank him somewhere between average at best and a lumbering, injury prone, responsibility dodging, charlatan at his worstThe same description could apply to our "leader" up front - Gabby AgbonlahorCome off it, he didn't in all of those games. Just look at the shed load of goals we conceded over both xmas when he didn't feature that inflates those goals per games figures.And playing with Baker is a major handicap. I reckon him and Okore will be pretty decent.
Agbonlahor is a very, very ordinary footballer.
Quote from: Chris Jameson on May 20, 2014, 10:00:03 PMAgbonlahor is a very, very ordinary footballer.Our highest goalscorer in the premier league, he has done well for us. But I agree that now he is ordinary, he has issues with staying fit and has lost some pace.
Vlaar is the least of our worries, let's have a pop at the other 7 or 8 muppets in the team. I'll start Gabby.