The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[Marlon From Bearwood]

We were also talking about Hoddle yesterday. Personally I wouldn't make him assistant manager though. I'd sack Lambert and make Hoddle caretaker manager until the end of the season.

[Monty]

via http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-1-chelsea-2-8601288

Reflecting on Chelsea's win Mourinho said:
“I analyse teams by the quality of players and Villa have one of the best squads, very good players and a very good bench, lots of solutions.”
Lambert replied to that comment by adding:
“Maybe he is trying to put pressure on me, I don’t know.

Then Mo goes on and on about our "good players" implying that we shouldn't be in trouble. He also names Baker and N'Zogbia amongst those good players 

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9704831/premier-league-chelsea-manager-jose-mourinho-insists-increased-lead-means-nothing-after-aston-villa-win

In fairness he mentioned them and Richardson as players who didn't even make the bench, which does imply a pretty good squad.

[Ian.]

I know Lambert has signed this 4 year deal but surely there must be some infringement of his terms with his performance since signing. I'm sure Randy must know a good lawyer?
Then again we lost out to that winey MON.

[Malandro]

He should leave on grounds of diminished responsibility

[Dave]

Then again we lost out to that winey MON.

Nope.

[Damo70]

We were also talking about Hoddle yesterday. Personally I wouldn't make him assistant manager though. I'd sack Lambert and make Hoddle caretaker manager until the end of the season.

I read a lot of football autobiographies and a lot of top players rave about Hoddle as a coach. It is his man management that seems to alienate people. Maybe he could be number two and if he upsets anyone Lambert can tell them how well they actually did and how unlucky they had been. Bad cop/deluded cop.

[LeeB]

We were also talking about Hoddle yesterday. Personally I wouldn't make him assistant manager though. I'd sack Lambert and make Hoddle caretaker manager until the end of the season.

I read a lot of football autobiographies and a lot of top players rave about Hoddle as a coach. It is his man management that seems to alienate people. Maybe he could be number two and if he upsets anyone Lambert can tell them how well they actually did and how unlucky they had been. Bad cop/deluded cop.

He could be Kato, to Lambert's Inspector Clouseau.

[passport1]

More like dumb to dumber

[PaulWinch again]

With Burnley currently winning we are getting into serious difficulty.

[Ian.]

Then again we lost out to that winey MON.

Nope.

No? I thought even though he walked we
Still had to agree a settlement fee?

[PaulWinch again]

We are now basically in a position where we can't rely on others to fail, we need to get ourselves out of trouble. Sadly we probably have the worst manager in the league who is making the team less than the sum of its parts.

[pauliewalnuts]

To hit 36 points, which would represent at least having a chance of staying up, we need to get 14 points from the remaining 14 games.

That should be easily within reach.

The problem is, I just can't see us doing it when we so rarely look like scoring, let alone actually winning.

There is no way these people are going to sack Lambert, and it is starting to look like it is too late, but I was thinking, even if we did sack him we couldn't do the usual thing of promoting his deputy for a bit because he hasn't fucking got one.

Honestly, the sooner these people sell this club to someone significantly less clueless, the better.

[PaulWinch again]

Yep there is a staggering lack of wisdom, knowledge and ingenuity at all levels of the club.

[Pete3206]

So called winnable games are now must win games. No room for further failure. That's why I'm convinced we're stuffed, unless Mr Lambert is shown the door.

[Dave]

Then again we lost out to that winey MON.

Nope.

No? I thought even though he walked we
Still had to agree a settlement fee?

From the last O'Neill thread:

Didn't O'Neill win his court case against Lerner which led people into thinking he was constructively dismissed?

No. It was settled out of court, as most Tribunal cases are. Employer clients of mine settle all the time without this being an admission of liability. There might be all manner of reasons for doing so.

One reason why employers tend to settle is that it is very difficult indeed to get an Order for costs in the Employment Tribunal even if you win, so fighting the case inevitably leaves the employer out of pocket.

So there is a good chance that we ended up paying him something, but we definitely didn't 'lose out' to him.