The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[Matt Collins]

We need a carbone or Merson type. Cole isn't going to be able to play enough. I'm just not sure who the options are really.

[Dave]

There might not be any of the usual names who get recycled to replace him, but you're saying there isn't a manager somewhere in world football who we could attract and who wouldn't do a better job? I doubt it.

I think I could name 15 quite quickly.

Go on then

Advocaat, Laudrup, Tuchel, Cowans, Gullit, Lippi, Sven, Redknapp (God I hate saying it), Pulis, Arena, Spalletti, Rangnick, Magath (despite what happened at fulham), Pereira (employed but supposedly looking for better) and Flores.

I'm not saying all would be a success but my point is that there are many available and better.

I put Pulis in because he was available and he would have done better.

 

Redknapp? really?

He's rather cut off his penis with a rusty bread knife than come here

Beisla, Bilic, Tuchel, Spalletti, Pereira, Allegri, Seedorf, Flores,Montella, Rangnick,Martino, Prandelli,

Obviously that's 12, but the point is there's much better out there.

Lots of choices, some of mine I wouldn't really want but they would do better.
I'm going to have a good think and pick my top three.

Frankly its rubbish to say we are not an attractive opportunity, we are.

It's all very well and good coming up with big lists of names, but they're ultimately meaningless. Why is Bielsa going to move from Marseille, top of Ligue 1? Why is Tata Martino going to resign as Argentina manager? Why would Montella leave Fiorentina? Why would Allegri leave Juventus for Villa?

Rangnick resigned from his last managerial job for health reasons and there is no way they will risk another Houllier situation. How does Prandelli getting fired for taking the richest team in Turkey to mid-table make him a suitable candidate for Villa?

Etc.

[passitsideways]

If this was season one of the Lambert project and we'd shored up our defence, got some good central midfield options and were introducing a more patient style which saw us struggle to penetrate I could deal with it. A couple of good creative players would make the world of difference.

It's the fact we're making this adjustment now that worries me. What's the plan. And what has it been to date? And will we ever sign the creative player and winger we need to make the system work.

One thing I will say for Lambert, if you look at his most expensive signings they've all done very well (kozak probably not yet but he can score). So if we give Lambert £5-7m to sign a creative player id hope he could get the right one. That's assuming he sees the need to

Completely agree. The thing that shits me the most is this constant chopping and changing, lack of planning/direction which means that we never seem to be able to consistently progress as a club. I can take mind-numbing boredom as a short-term pain necessary for long-term defensive solidity; I can take some terrible results, if it means experience for getting better results in the future. But unfortunately, we've never ever learned from experiencing either of these two awful things.

As for the creativity thing, well, I can't be arsed to think about it anymore. We've complained about this problem for at least 12 months straight now, yet he hasn't come close to fixing it. Who really knows if it's a money thing where he's been unable to scrape together enough money at any point during the past 12 months (taking into account the need to fill other holes in the squad) to buy the right man to help fix this, or he really genuinely is an idiot who can't see Gabby and Andi for the hard-working but utterly limited sods they are.

[supertom]

I don't think Randy is imaginative enough to look outside of these shores. If Lambert walked tomorrow I think the very best we could hope for is coaxing Shteve MaClaren here. But more likely he'll look for someone out of work leaving you options like Warnock (certain relegation) or someone like Curbishley who's been out the game too long.
Personally I'd see whether Sid wanted it with SBL to come in as his No2/DOF/Overseer. It'd be risky, but in recent history when we've gone Villa we've been alright. Little was a revelation at first, and Gregory did pretty well for a few years.

It's all a bit shit at the moment though. Not many options within Randy's viewing range, and Lambert is as safe as houses anyway. There's also little need in Randy's eyes I'd imagine, to go pumping 10-20 million into the playing squad this january. We could really do with it though.

[Ads]

The fact he consistently picks Gabby and Weimann suggests he does see them as creative players, which beggars belief.

We have done well really to only lose two in ten despite having 9 and sometimes only 8 players.

[LTA]

Great servant  and much loved figure though he is, I don't think Sid's cut out to be a PL manager either short or long term.

[supertom]

The fact he consistently picks Gabby and Weimann suggests he does see them as creative players, which beggars belief.

We have done well really to only lose two in ten despite having 9 and sometimes only 8 players.

Lambert would point to the stats and say that Weimann has the most assists for us this season, as well as being top scorer. So the best we can hope for is someone scoring 3 in 19 appearences, and getting 2 assists. That's exceptional for Lambert's liking I'd imagine.

[Lastfootstamper]

We need a carbone or Merson type. Cole isn't going to be able to playget picked often enough. I'm just not sure who the options are really.

A little adjustment there to highlight a point, in that we know the type of player we need in the side, and in Cole we already have one. (Maybe in Grealish we have another, time will hopefully tell.) But he's rarely started, and I don't envisage that will change now. If he's not gonna get in the starting line-up against an eighteenth-placed Palace, at home, during a hectic period of fixtures, then why's he here? I expected Cole to start yesterday, hoped for Grealish, got neither. MONesque in sticking to his guns, picking the same players, and only tinkering around when injuries and suspensions dictate. Pains me to say it, but I don't think the starting XI will change much until the man picking it is, irrespective of what players we have on the payroll.

[silhillvilla]

I'm not a great fan of protests and would never knee jerk into one BUT this is enough now , lambert needs removing.
Only the fans can get this noticed with fox and less so Lerner .

[richard moore]

Interesting to see the abuse about him getting quite personal now in the light of previous comments on here about doing that

Care to be more specific about what exactly you are complaining?

No, thank you, but it's nice for you to show such concern, I'm very grateful to you David. I wasn't actually complaining about anything.

[supertom]

I'm not a great fan of protests and would never knee jerk into one BUT this is enough now , lambert needs removing.
Only the fans can get this noticed with fox and less so Lerner .

I'm generally not a fan either but a few Lambert out banners wouldn't go amiss, and plenty of Lerner out. Something to spark him into some action rather than apathy.

I'd also wonder if there's a game we could pick to try and get as close to a no show at VP as we can. Get enough people to stay away from the game to really make a point. There'd be plenty who will go rain, or shine of course, in greatness and shitness, Prem down to Conference. You'll never get them to take a weekend off.
But for example one of our remaining home games. Pick out one we know is going to be dross anyway, like Stoke at home. Try and get people to take the weekend off and make the gate as low as possible. It could be worth a try. We've been doing it well enough without rousing people. But if we could get our attendance below 20 for a league game it would hopefully drive the point home to Lerner.

[Jimbo]

That list of Lambert's various 'achievements'. Get that into a document that can be easily distributed on social media, printed out and sent - as a letter of complaint - or emailed to Villa Park / local papers / radio stations in large numbers. It might go some way towards expressing our discontent without disrupting matchday operations and making us look like twats on TV.   

[silhillvilla]

Stoke at home could be a good one. Very unattractive fixture plus that's half term week and lots of people may be away or choose to do something more entertaining with the kids ?
I'm all for not going v Stoke .

[silhillvilla]

That list of Lambert's various 'achievements'. Get that into a document that can be easily distributed on social media, printed out and sent - as a letter of complaint - or emailed to Villa Park / local papers / radio stations in large numbers. It might go some way towards expressing our discontent without disrupting matchday operations and making us look like twats on TV.

Perhaps a little leaflet handed out at a match.
We had those Mcleish out leaflets

[Ger Regan]

Interesting to see the abuse about him getting quite personal now in the light of previous comments on here about doing that

Care to be more specific about what exactly you are complaining?

No, thank you, but it's nice for you to show such concern, I'm very grateful to you David. I wasn't actually complaining about anything.

The arsey / sarcastic form of posting doesn't really suit you to be honest. To be truly good at it you need to be reasonably humorous. Full marks for repeated effort though.