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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8760 on: November 11, 2014, 07:51:41 PM »

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8761 on: November 11, 2014, 08:48:17 PM »
David Moyes is no longer available, so it's Pulis or relegation for us..... Anyone know the best pubs for away fans at Huddersfield Town and Rotherham United?

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8762 on: November 11, 2014, 08:50:55 PM »
Would be a lovely scenario so here's hoping. I could suggest a similar circumstance to that of Newcastle Utd. There had been a period of real lethargy and poor form , results and also the performances. However there has been a recent change to this seing an up turn in fortune , play and results .
Now there was a situation where many many fans were unhappy with the manager  and also the owner and the general running of the club. Newcastle had an dreadfully awful run of results 7 winless matches and have now won the last 4 . There is a possibility of that happening with Villa. Pardrew was under pressure and not many fans would have expected such a turnaround ... Is it too much to suggest the same can't happen here at Villa ?
There are certain similarities to the clubs with the fans questionning the ambition of the clubs . I'd like to think Aston Villa are a steady premier league club.

Look back at our results over the last couple of years (and probably longer).
Then tell us where there is ANYwhere we have put a run of more than 2 wins together, never mind 4 or more.
Infact, you'd struggle to find a run of 2 wins in the bounce. They are there, but are very,very few and far between.
Our absolute lack of consistency is not a short term thing. It's ingrained in the team.




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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8763 on: November 11, 2014, 09:01:05 PM »
Would be a lovely scenario so here's hoping. I could suggest a similar circumstance to that of Newcastle Utd. There had been a period of real lethargy and poor form , results and also the performances. However there has been a recent change to this seing an up turn in fortune , play and results .
Now there was a situation where many many fans were unhappy with the manager  and also the owner and the general running of the club. Newcastle had an dreadfully awful run of results 7 winless matches and have now won the last 4 . There is a possibility of that happening with Villa. Pardrew was under pressure and not many fans would have expected such a turnaround ... Is it too much to suggest the same can't happen here at Villa ?
There are certain similarities to the clubs with the fans questionning the ambition of the clubs . I'd like to think Aston Villa are a steady premier league club.

Look back at our results over the last couple of years (and probably longer).
Then tell us where there is ANYwhere we have put a run of more than 2 wins together, never mind 4 or more.
Infact, you'd struggle to find a run of 2 wins in the bounce. They are there, but are very,very few and far between.
Our absolute lack of consistency is not a short term thing. It's ingrained in the team.

Normally if we win two on the bounce we inevitably then go on a horrendous run shortly after. It's almost inevitable.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8764 on: November 11, 2014, 09:03:23 PM »
As soon as we appear to 'turn the corner', we go straight back on the road to near-oblivion.

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« Reply #8765 on: November 11, 2014, 09:05:03 PM »
As soon as we appear to 'turn the corner', we go straight back on the road to near-oblivion.
We've spent the last three years essentially recreating the ending of The Italian Job.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8766 on: November 11, 2014, 09:32:35 PM »
As soon as we appear to 'turn the corner', we go straight back on the road to near-oblivion.
We've spent the last three years essentially recreating the ending of The Italian Job.
Unfortunately I don't think we can sing "we're the self preservation society".

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8767 on: November 11, 2014, 09:34:44 PM »
I'm wondering, for discussion sake, how people would be with Lambert say he were to win / undefeated in the next 4 to 5 matches. Its often believed there are turning points in seasons and form can change .

Footyskillz, I can't decide if your hopelessly optimistic, completely naive, just blind to what's going on, or maybe Lambert's agent?

You're not the first person to compare Lambert to Newcastle and Pardew, but there are some important differences.

To plagiarize a previous post-

The toon army have been after Pardew from the minute he got through the door as he's not "one of them"

Unlike Lambert he can actually point to several periods of good form with them, as well as actually having turned around ailing sides, both inherited and self created.

Lambert had only known success since he started as a manager and apparently has no idea how to progress from the current shambles.

We, on the over hand, are in a downward spiral and have been for 3 1/2 seasons, 2 1/2 of which Lambert has overseen.

It's his squad now. He's already discarded all bar Bacuna and Kozak from last year's signings.  In all of that time we've seen 1 run of decent results, at the end of his first season, that have come from a team that looked like they knew what they were doing.

Everything else has been pretty much downhill.

A chimpanzee in space could see that our players are devoid of confidence and self-belief at the moment. The last 2 games I've seen they also looked like they had no belief in what they were bring asked to do.

Pauliewalnuts said in the West Ham post match thread that in the first half that they looked like a team trying to get the manager sacked.
I wonder how close to the truth that was, and it was an almighty bollocking from our favourite Irish psychopath that got them working a bit harder second half.

Do you really think that Lambert will keep us up? Because nothing, absolutely nothing suggests that. 

It's not just about 6 defeats without scoring, or 1 goal and 1 point in 7 and you don't even need to bring up all the negative records that would have got anyone at another club sacked for just 1 or 2 of them

What it is about is:
30 points from 31 games so far in 2014.
15 points in the last 1/2 seasons worth of games. (so our points per game is actually falling over the course of the year.)
5 goals in 11 games.
Barely averaging a goal per game during his time here, despite having Benteke available for most of that period.

Tactics that make a Sunday pub team look like Barcelona or Bayern München.

Where in all of that is there an indication that he can identify where we're struggling and that he knows what to do to sort it out.

In that awful run-in last year, people were talking about Baker looking shellshocked and that he needed taking out of the firing line for his own good.

I think the same can be said of Lambert. The last 2 1/2 seasons might well be the making of Lambert as a manager if he can take the time to look at what's gone on and reflect on how to do it better next time. But it won't be with us.

He needs to go for our sake and his.


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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8768 on: November 11, 2014, 09:40:52 PM »
It's actually worse it's 5 goals in the last 14 competitive games. Truly shocking and pathetic.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8769 on: November 11, 2014, 09:46:31 PM »
Lambert is staying.

:)

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8770 on: November 11, 2014, 10:02:02 PM »
And how the fucking hell is that anything to smile about?
The only people who can genuinely be happy with that prospect are fans and officials of Burnley, QPR, Sunderland and Crystal Palace, fans of WBA and the blues ir the clinically insane.

Oh I forgot Lambert and his agent.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8771 on: November 11, 2014, 10:09:23 PM »
And how the fucking hell is that anything to smile about?
The only people who can genuinely be happy with that prospect are fans and officials of Burnley, QPR, Sunderland and Crystal Palace, fans of WBA and the blues ir the clinically insane.

Oh I forgot Lambert and his agent.

Clearly not.  I am a season ticket holder and go to three quarter of away games.

Do not believe the hype.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8772 on: November 11, 2014, 10:15:49 PM »
Well I'm a season ticket holder and we are a shambles-believe it!

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8773 on: November 11, 2014, 10:16:13 PM »
As soon as we appear to 'turn the corner', we go straight back on the road to near-oblivion.
We've spent the last three years essentially recreating the ending of The Italian Job.

Without a coach load of gold.

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Re: The Paul Lambert thread - NEW POLL post QPR
« Reply #8774 on: November 11, 2014, 10:21:03 PM »
Well I'm a season ticket holder and we are a shambles-believe it!

I vehemently disagree.

It is all about opinions, I however do not need to swear or exagerate to convey it.

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