The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[JUAN PABLO]

Sack him now. Why bother persisting with him? What is he bringing to the table right now? I don't think anybody could do any worse and they might just do slightly better. Slightly better might be enough.
I'd do it now and give whoever takes over a week to plan. So I guess it would be Sid.

I imagine they may not be sacking him based on not wanting to pay him off. Maybe there's a clause saying sub 40 points after 38 games and you are out ?? Just a thought

when we go down end of next season , it will cost us more than getting rid of him now.   and we will .

[Gregorys Boy]

Not sure if I would say he deserves another season, but I do think he is a good manager who deserves the best chance to do a good job, also because he has had to rebuild the whole team almost and has relied a lot on youth then it does take a few seasons normally for those kind of players to come into their own.

It is pretty much his team now, and I do think next season if there is no sign of progress then it will be time for a change, but not just yet.  Unless of course we go in which case the board's hand maybe forced.

[tomd2103]

He has had 45 million ish. Plenty to get to mid table even with wage restrictions.

It is, if the major purchases are playing - unfortunately we haven't been able to put them on the pitch often enough this season. We've got a mid table first team but a bottom 6 squad.

i agree but its a squad he has built

And the opportunities that he has missed in the Transfer windows, especially the January ones.

The Kozak signing still puzzles me.  It's not that I don't rate Kozak (didn't really get to see enough of him to form a definite opinion) it's just that it was so obvious that there were other areas of the team that required that type of investment. 

[tomd2103]

Not sure if I would say he deserves another season, but I do think he is a good manager who deserves the best chance to do a good job, also because he has had to rebuild the whole team almost and has relied a lot on youth then it does take a few seasons normally for those kind of players to come into their own.

It is pretty much his team now, and I do think next season if there is no sign of progress then it will be time for a change, but not just yet.  Unless of course we go in which case the board's hand maybe forced.

Agreed with that up until the last couple of weeks, but the sharp decline in form and the revelations about the conduct of his own staff means he's reached untenable position for me. 

[adrenachrome]

He has had 45 million ish. Plenty to get to mid table even with wage restrictions.

It is, if the major purchases are playing - unfortunately we haven't been able to put them on the pitch often enough this season. We've got a mid table first team but a bottom 6 squad.

i agree but its a squad he has built

And the opportunities that he has missed in the Transfer windows, especially the January ones.

The Kozak signing still puzzles me.  It's not that I don't rate Kozak (didn't really get to see enough of him to form a definite opinion) it's just that it was so obvious that there were other areas of the team that required that type of investment. 

Factor wages as apposed to price as the overriding factor in the equation and your puzzlement may well reduce somewhat.

[Gregorys Boy]

He has had 45 million ish. Plenty to get to mid table even with wage restrictions.

It is, if the major purchases are playing - unfortunately we haven't been able to put them on the pitch often enough this season. We've got a mid table first team but a bottom 6 squad.

i agree but its a squad he has built

And the opportunities that he has missed in the Transfer windows, especially the January ones.

The Kozak signing still puzzles me.  It's not that I don't rate Kozak (didn't really get to see enough of him to form a definite opinion) it's just that it was so obvious that there were other areas of the team that required that type of investment. 

Think it was because he knew than we might be asking too much of Benetake to produce twenty goals again, and that it is risky relining too much on one striker.  Kozak could be really important in the first half of next season with CB out till November.

[Leighton]

It's an old set of poll options. I did suggest a new set but no-one replied so I did not bother changing it. You can always re-vote.

I posted that it should be reset a few pages before you suggested Legion, so go on go on go on. Reset it.

Sack him now.
Sack him as soon as mathematically safe.
Sack him end of season.
Keep him.

[peter w]

It's an old set of poll options. I did suggest a new set but no-one replied so I did not bother changing it. You can always re-vote.

I posted that it should be reset a few pages before you suggested Legion, so go on go on go on. Reset it.

Sack him now.
Sack him as soon as mathematically safe.
Sack him end of season.
Keep him.

A tad unfair though and misleading.

Keep him should also have addendums

Keep him under a new owner and more money for example.

[Gregorys Boy]

Another question is does it make that much difference in the choice of changing manager if we go down or not?  What I mean is would you consider Lambert a good choice to bring us back up or should we go with a more experience manager who knows the Championship better?  Yes, I know its depressing talking about these things but they might become a reality soon

[WarszaVillan]

It's an old set of poll options. I did suggest a new set but no-one replied so I did not bother changing it. You can always re-vote.

I posted that it should be reset a few pages before you suggested Legion, so go on go on go on. Reset it.

Sack him now.
Sack him as soon as mathematically safe.
Sack him end of season.
Keep him.

A tad unfair though and misleading.

Keep him should also have addendums

Keep him under a new owner and more money for example.

Keep him plus lobotomy?

[tomd2103]

He has had 45 million ish. Plenty to get to mid table even with wage restrictions.

It is, if the major purchases are playing - unfortunately we haven't been able to put them on the pitch often enough this season. We've got a mid table first team but a bottom 6 squad.

i agree but its a squad he has built

And the opportunities that he has missed in the Transfer windows, especially the January ones.

The Kozak signing still puzzles me.  It's not that I don't rate Kozak (didn't really get to see enough of him to form a definite opinion) it's just that it was so obvious that there were other areas of the team that required that type of investment. 

Factor wages as apposed to price as the overriding factor in the equation and your puzzlement may well reduce somewhat.

So Kozak, a Czech international signed from a top Italian club, is going to be on peanuts is he?  You telling me there isn't an attacking midfielder out there we couldn't have signed for £7m+ and the wages Kozak is on?   

[tomd2103]

He has had 45 million ish. Plenty to get to mid table even with wage restrictions.

It is, if the major purchases are playing - unfortunately we haven't been able to put them on the pitch often enough this season. We've got a mid table first team but a bottom 6 squad.

i agree but its a squad he has built

And the opportunities that he has missed in the Transfer windows, especially the January ones.

The Kozak signing still puzzles me.  It's not that I don't rate Kozak (didn't really get to see enough of him to form a definite opinion) it's just that it was so obvious that there were other areas of the team that required that type of investment. 

Think it was because he knew than we might be asking too much of Benetake to produce twenty goals again, and that it is risky relining too much on one striker.   Kozak could be really important in the first half of next season with CB out till November.

He'd signed Helenius and let Bent go out on loan though. 

[PeterWithesShin]

If we hadn't signed Kozak we'd almost certainly be in the Championship next season. The injuries to Benteke this season have shown why we needed a good backup, just our luck that he ended up with a long term injury as well.

[Gregorys Boy]

If we hadn't signed Kozak we'd almost certainly be in the Championship next season. The injuries to Benteke this season have shown why we needed a good backup, just our luck that he ended up with a long term injury as well.

Yeah and he has looked the best of the rest, so hopefully will have a big season next year.

[adrenachrome]

He has had 45 million ish. Plenty to get to mid table even with wage restrictions.

It is, if the major purchases are playing - unfortunately we haven't been able to put them on the pitch often enough this season. We've got a mid table first team but a bottom 6 squad.

i agree but its a squad he has built

And the opportunities that he has missed in the Transfer windows, especially the January ones.

The Kozak signing still puzzles me.  It's not that I don't rate Kozak (didn't really get to see enough of him to form a definite opinion) it's just that it was so obvious that there were other areas of the team that required that type of investment. 

Factor wages as apposed to price as the overriding factor in the equation and your puzzlement may well reduce somewhat.

So Kozak, a Czech international signed from a top Italian club, is going to be on peanuts is he?  You telling me there isn't an attacking midfielder out there we couldn't have signed for £7m+ and the wages Kozak is on?   

Yes. I read it in an interview with the man himself. "Fell off the chair" when he heard the terms, he said. This was moments after saying there was no wages cap BTW. "No,there is nothing like that".

The Wes Hoolahan fiasco provided further cause for concern,

Then, a week or so ago, Charlie Nicholas provided further confirmation in info that was clearly leaked by PL. If that was not enough, Randy popped up last week to put the icing on the cake, as it were.