The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[ciggiesnbeer]

I'd hope there was some sort of performance related break clause in the contract.

This made me laugh.

This is from an Owner / CEO who didn't have a contingency plan when O'Neill fucked off, recruited (eventually) an ill Has Been Domeneque fan and side kick stooge who messed up in record timeand followed this up with the single most disastrous appointment in the modern history of Villa.

This little lot cost us the best part of £15m including a fairly hefty goodwill payment to our near neighbours.

And you think they have the vision to have a performance related clause.

They were going to offer him a new contract a few weeks back.

You mean McAllister? I thought he did rather well. Probably the only bright point in the past few years.

[rob_bridge]

I'd hope there was some sort of performance related break clause in the contract.

This made me laugh.

This is from an Owner / CEO who didn't have a contingency plan when O'Neill fucked off, recruited (eventually) an ill Has Been Domeneque fan and side kick stooge who messed up in record timeand followed this up with the single most disastrous appointment in the modern history of Villa.

This little lot cost us the best part of £15m including a fairly hefty goodwill payment to our near neighbours.

And you think they have the vision to have a performance related clause.

They were going to offer him a new contract a few weeks back.

You mean McAllister? I thought he did rather well. Probably the only bright point in the past few years.

I mean both of them - they turned us from Top 6 into Relegation Scrappers 3 months after they took over. Only spending £30m+ in January saved us. And even then he had to bring back players they had apparently alienated.

[brian green]

As the young bloke who sits behind me said when we went 2-1 down today  even if we get £20 million from the owner to spend in the summer, that squad is so weak and so full of inferior players £20 million will go nowhere.   I think we need 8 or 10 better players than those we have in the squad.   We had hoped that four or five good quality players might make the difference but on today's evidence we have at least six or seven more for the Bomb Squad.

He needs two good full backs (plus the one we have on loan) two central defenders to back up Vlaar and Okore, a proven striker to go with Kozak/Benteke a creative midfield general and a holding midfield and a fast direct wide player be he winger or wing back.

With a budget of twenty million as some funster on here put it he will be shopping in Poundland Latvia again.

We keep coming back all the time to the need for the owner to understand that the ownership of a premiership football club requires constant massive investment.   The tap cannot be turned off and on without long term structural damage to your investment which is what we are watching on days like today.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think if you look at the players currently with us who are not - currently - good enough, it is quite frightening.

I tend to agree. 20m will be not nearly enough.

[Villafirst]

Once again, not a jot grom our leader - how can he support a useless jerk like PL? He should've gone after the C Palace & Sheff Utd defeats. We're like a rudderless ship in the ocean.

[OzVilla]

I'm a believer in stability and with our financial constraints the long term plan of polishing up young, hungry youth players appealed to me at first.

But it isn't working and with this set of players it won't. They are no where near good enough.

Lambert, with the best will in the world, is incapable of improving them (see Weimann, Lowton, Bowery, Bennett, Baker) and tactically he is poor. Every know and then he stumbles across a formula which brings success only for it to be ditched next game for hoof and hope football.

I'm not sure if he's a bit thick or just doesn't trust the group. Either way for he first time I actually think enough is enough, time for a change.

Lerner is still our biggest problem though and has been for a few years now.

[Louzie0]

Once again, not a jot grom our leader - how can he support a useless jerk like PL? He should've gone after the C Palace & Sheff Utd defeats. We're like a rudderless ship in the ocean.

Kim Jong-Un is a fan as well?

[ChicagoLion]

Once again, not a jot grom our leader - how can he support a useless jerk like PL? He should've gone after the C Palace & Sheff Utd defeats. We're like a rudderless ship in the ocean.

Kim Jong-Un is a fan as well?

Yes he taught Lambert everything he knows about football.

[Louzie0]

Once again, not a jot grom our leader - how can he support a useless jerk like PL? He should've gone after the C Palace & Sheff Utd defeats. We're like a rudderless ship in the ocean.

Kim Jong-Un is a fan as well?

Yes he taught Lambert everything he knows about football.

Certainly looks like it this weekend. I am so pissed off I could invade somewhere.

[SoccerHQ]

I'd hope there was some sort of performance related break clause in the contract.

This made me laugh.

This is from an Owner / CEO who didn't have a contingency plan when O'Neill fucked off, recruited (eventually) an ill Has Been Domeneque fan and side kick stooge who messed up in record timeand followed this up with the single most disastrous appointment in the modern history of Villa.

This little lot cost us the best part of £15m including a fairly hefty goodwill payment to our near neighbours.

And you think they have the vision to have a performance related clause.

They were going to offer him a new contract a few weeks back.

You mean McAllister? I thought he did rather well. Probably the only bright point in the past few years.

Under him we lost 2-1 to WBA when they only had 10 men. He was not the answer.

[brian green]

OzVilla your observations are precisely correct, especially the comment about Lambert not improving the players he has bought.   It is one thing to spot potential, it is a very different thing to bring out that potential and to put it to work.   Add to that inability to polish young players a proclivity to have favourites and it becomes pretty obvious why our young players who arrived in hope are headed for the bomb squad.

[paul_e]

I don't think the squad is as bad as they look right now, they all look terrified, every touch is tense as if they're expecting to fuck it up.  Watch the games against Norwich and Chelsea again, these guys can play good football and be very effective.  Lambert says he can't explain why they're not doing better, which sums up the problem, explaining why our players are shit scared of playing at Villa Park is his job.  What has really turned me against him though is that he has a kid who is in the form of his life sat on the bench, who has everything to go on and be a really big player for us and he won't bring him on.

[pooligan]

Another thing that annoys me about Lambert is the way he treats players who are not playing .You never see the likes of Helenius ,Bowery,Luna,Lowton,Steer,Sylla etc ever playing for the reserves.These guys go for weeks without actually playing,so you would think that they all lack match fitness.Everything about this manager shows he is out of his depth

[mike]

We are no further forward than we were under McLeish. We have spent a fortune and, if anything, the squad is weaker than under TSM. Most of his signings have been an utter waste of money. I can't get to matches now, but if I could I don't think I could possibly justify the time and expense of going to Villa Park. I just can't imagine it is even close to being a good way to spend a Saturday. And I used to do a 400 mile round trip to watch the Villa in the days of JG.

[Toronto Villa]

He can spot potential and he has got more out them than their original value in the case of a number of players. What he has failed to do is ensure that some of those players maintain their initial development. He has also failed to implement any consistent system or style of play thus again hampering the development of the players. Our players have become one dimensional, where when it is going to plan it looks good, when it isn't they look lost and devoid of any ideas on how to correct a situation.