The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[Damo70]

Not much to argue with there, John apart from the crap far outweighing the great stuff.

I'd imagine that most that want him to stay would probably agree with your last line. It's like nobody really believes in him but can't be arsed to change manager again.

I think it is partly not wanting another change of manager, style of play and big turnover of players and partly fear of who we might end up with.

[Concrete John]

So far this season we've played 34 League and Cup matches and the front 3 have scored 18 goals, i.e. 0.53 goals per match.  If they continue at this rate that's another 4 goals combined this season, even if we're generous and call it 5, that's still only 23, less than 50% of the total they scored last season (47).  Last season was dreadful, with 1 game to go we still weren't safe.  I accept the defence has been stronger this term, with Vlaar now bedded in and largely injury free and the addition of Bertrand from Jan on has helped here as well, but I can't understand how the forwards have gone so spectacularly off the boil. If they'd improved from last year and contributed say 50 goals, imagine where we could have been in the table this season.

I knew weren't as good up top as we were last season, but that really is a damning statistic.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Not much to argue with there, John apart from the crap far outweighing the great stuff.

I'd imagine that most that want him to stay would probably agree with your last line. It's like nobody really believes in him but can't be arsed to change manager again.

I think it is partly not wanting another change of manager, style of play and big turnover of players and partly fear of who we might end up with.

Sorry, am I reading this correctly, some want to keep Lambert because of his "style of play"?

Lambert seems to enjoy havng a high turnover of players, so whoever is manager there's likely to be some changes.

The "who we end up with" is for me the only real defence of keeping Lambert. Any board that can think that appointing McCleish as manager and expect it to work, plus extending Lambert's contract when we were completely struggling to string together any points, nevermind any passes, should set off the alarm bells and air raid sirens.

We really are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

[SoccerHQ]

How do people reckon he'll remould the side in Benteke's absence?

I don't mean this season as I imagine it will be case of Albrighton, Gabby and Weimann and hope for the best. In any case we only need a couple of draws to secure survival and we did pick up points when he was injured earlier this season.

I'm thinking next season as we'll probably be without him for the opening three months and we need to pick up wins and points in that period so we're not in our annual relegation battle.

I can see us signing two attacking midfielder now tbh, to try and plug the gap of no Benteke and the existing forwards can't hide behind their 3 goals a season then as they'll have many more chances.

The issue is can Lambert find players decent enough to create on the 20m budget as obviously there's no Benteke cash now.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm assuming he'll start Kozak next season. There may well be more than £20m available in the summer.

[Mister E]

I'm assuming he'll start Kozak next season. There may well be more than £20m available in the summer.

I'd prefer the funds to be spent on players other than attackers, though. I hope he'll take "make do" approach upfront and focus on strengthening MF and defence.

[olaftab]

So far this season we've played 34 League and Cup matches and the front 3 have scored 18 goals, i.e. 0.53 goals per match.  If they continue at this rate that's another 4 goals combined this season, even if we're generous and call it 5, that's still only 23, less than 50% of the total they scored last season (47).  Last season was dreadful, with 1 game to go we still weren't safe.  I accept the defence has been stronger this term, with Vlaar now bedded in and largely injury free and the addition of Bertrand from Jan on has helped here as well, but I can't understand how the forwards have gone so spectacularly off the boil. If they'd improved from last year and contributed say 50 goals, imagine where we could have been in the table this season.

Forwards have not gone off the boil the service to them has. This is because in addressing the defence issues we have lost the attacking prowess. Average teams like us can do one or the other but not both. Withe addition of better players especially in midfield we will have a better balance.

[walsall villain]

So far this season we've played 34 League and Cup matches and the front 3 have scored 18 goals, i.e. 0.53 goals per match.  If they continue at this rate that's another 4 goals combined this season, even if we're generous and call it 5, that's still only 23, less than 50% of the total they scored last season (47).  Last season was dreadful, with 1 game to go we still weren't safe.  I accept the defence has been stronger this term, with Vlaar now bedded in and largely injury free and the addition of Bertrand from Jan on has helped here as well, but I can't understand how the forwards have gone so spectacularly off the boil. If they'd improved from last year and contributed say 50 goals, imagine where we could have been in the table this season.

Forwards have not gone off the boil the service to them has. This is because in addressing the defence issues we have lost the attacking prowess. Average teams like us can do one or the other but not both. Withe addition of better players especially in midfield we will have a better balance.

I think Weimann has been very disappointing this year. When he has had chances he has made such a mess of them. For me the front three have generally not linked up as well as last year. Felt all year we were a forward or two short and that was before losing Kozak and now Benteke. Are you saying Peter Withe is coming back? He he

[richard moore]

Is anyone honestly going to continue to defend this idiot after today? Oh hang on, injuries, of course...

[Jon Crofts]

Injuries or no injuries, the man is a disease on Villa.

[richard moore]

Injuries or no injuries, the man is a disease on Villa.

Isn't he just Jon, a total and utter tosser

[curiousorange]

Fuck off Lambert, you're sodding useless.

[caster troy]

He has GOT to go after this. I'd rather we had no manager at all.

[PaulWinch again]

Enough is enough, 10 homes defeats. We were outplayed by the bottom side in the league and it's completely unacceptable. Just leave Lambert you're failing miserably.

[richard moore]

I said last week we are fucking shit and he is a complete and utter idiot. I look forward to the usual suspects coming on here after that and defending him as usual