The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[supertom]

The private jet is only a story because somebody found out about it. Had nobody known about the jet bit the story itself would never have become what it did. It would have been just about us meeting one of a number of potential managers for the club and we might have found about it or we might not have.

He was the first choice. Trust me on this one.   

Bullet dodged.

I'm not too sure about that.

Things have gone very badly since he went there, but I think the major part of that situation is that he shouldn't have gone near that job. Poor judgement.

This probably sounds daft, but I am glad that they had the foresight or sense of adventure to think about making an appointment like that.

I thought OGS had more sense than to take a jog like that. It'll end in disaster.
I do suspect though that he's probably getting very well paid. Which may well be a big part of why he chose to go there.

[Steve67]

I wanted Paul Lambert as Manager. I was wrong. Villa is too big for him and mid table is all I expect from him. Take off the shackles and I would like to see what he has that we haven't already seen. Not sure who else is out there, so I guess we have to stick with him.

[mr underhill]

this is what I find really mystifying about the debate - there is no alternative so he stays. Somewhere in the footballing universe there has to be someone else. I don't claim to know who that person is but they are out there. I'm sure we only come up with that argument because we have an owner and a CE who have only just worked out that the round object that we play with every week is in fact, a football.

[rob_bridge]

this is what I find really mystifying about the debate - there is no alternative so he stays. Somewhere in the footballing universe there has to be someone else. I don't claim to know who that person is but they are out there. I'm sure we only come up with that argument because we have an owner and a CE who have only just worked out that the round object that we play with every week is in fact, a football.

I'd give Lambert the rest of this calendar year - we have improved slightly under him.

And yes negative or otherwise one of the compelling reasons to keep him is that Lerner and Faulkner couldn't pick their nose when it comes to hiring a manager so we could end up with someone worse.

Remember that one of the deciding factors in hiring TSM was a letter from a person doing the same role for one of our (bigger) rivals. You could not fucking make it up.

[supertom]

this is what I find really mystifying about the debate - there is no alternative so he stays. Somewhere in the footballing universe there has to be someone else. I don't claim to know who that person is but they are out there. I'm sure we only come up with that argument because we have an owner and a CE who have only just worked out that the round object that we play with every week is in fact, a football.

I'd give Lambert the rest of this calendar year - we have improved slightly under him.

And yes negative or otherwise one of the compelling reasons to keep him is that Lerner and Faulkner couldn't pick their nose when it comes to hiring a manager so we could end up with someone worse.

Remember that one of the deciding factors in hiring TSM was a letter from a person doing the same role for one of our (bigger) rivals. You could not fucking make it up.

Yep. We're not gonna pay enough to tempt a big name coach.
I don't trust Lerner and Faulkner to sufficiently scout and strike gold on an unheard of coach like they guy at Soton.

Essentially we'd be looking at someone akin to Lambert again. Someone who's come up through the leagues and perhaps had a bit of time in the Premiership. Lamberts no different to guys like Jewell, Coyle, McLeish etc. He's that level of manager and with that you have a ceiling of mid-table, or the distinct possibility of relegation scraps but generally they dip into the Premier League for a few years, then fall to their level again. I think in a year or two Lambert will start disappearing down the leagues. Lambert doesn't have enough in his locker to do what Rodgers has done.

The only other alternative would be an average manager who we'd have to pay through the nose. Say what you will about Pulis, Hughes, Allardyce, Bruce etc. They've got year upon year of Premiership experience. An appointment of that ilk would be wholly uninspiring of course but being as we're a stable club you'd imagine a fair chance of improvement.

It would be nice if we were hitting 50 points a season at least, instead of desperately scraping 40 every year.

[Irish villain]

"It would be nice if we were hitting 50 points a season at least, instead of desperately scraping 40 every year."

We are going around in circles. It's ridiculous.

[mr underhill]

do you mean the thread or the way we play?

[richard moore]

do you mean the thread or the way we play?

Both, as I think you are inferring. We are going absolutely nowhere under Lambert. He is so so limited and that's me being kind as the sun is out. I've said before what I really think of him and it's not pretty

[Irish villain]

do you mean the thread or the way we play?

The club! Sorry. Another year trying to get to forty points, I was agreeing with supertom.

[Archie]

Paul Lambert is god.
With the usual crap defending, lack of gameplan, pace and consistency, he resuscitated even the walking dead Moyes.

[Ads]

You cannot blame Lambert for the fundamentals of Benteke missing two sitters from four yards out. His lack of a gameplan saw us create the majority of chances that we should have bagged at least two from.

Okore getting injured and a replacement not coming in is part of our undoing time and again.

[ez]

"It would be nice if we were hitting 50 points a season at least, instead of desperately scraping 40 every year."

We are going around in circles. It's ridiculous.

50 points is, or was a realistic target this season. Lambert in his post match interview refused to say how many points he's aiming for.  If we get less than 41 we've gone backwards and he'll be gone. He really needs 45 or more although that would still be disappointing.

[Archie]

I blame him because we played as a team of pensioners, without any pace, spirit and  pride against the weakest United team of the last 20 years. This man is bringing me to hate football.

[Ads]

I think your wrong and don't think we watched the same game.

[Archie]

It is quite clear that we do not if you have liked it.