The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[brontebilly]

Don't think there are many other potential successors to Lambert in the championship either. Looking at the managers at the top there - Pearson, Dyche, Davies, Redknapp, Atkins, McCarthy. McClaren probably the best of them considering the direction QPR and Derby have gone since he defected.
Laudrup probably was always looking for his next gig. The Swansea chairman seems to know his onions re managers so there was obviously some issues behind the scenes there. To be honest more than a manager we need a complete overhaul. The structures are clearly not right for AVFC to succeed. Sure Lambert is miles out of his depth but I'm not sure one man is what we need.

[eastie]

My secret is out, Eastie.

Damn,  I knew it was you

[john e]

KEA sums it all up for me.   Not just an inadequate player miles below premiership standard but the fact that Lambert sees something in him.

If somebody comes up to you in the street and says he has got a gold watch in his pocket you say show me the watch.   If he won't show you the watch you don't buy it.   Simple.   KEA shows us nothing.  Game after game, week after week, nothing.   But our manager picks him week after week, defeat after defeat but he continues to show nothing.   He can't tackle, he is no good in the air, he is not physically dominant, he cannot play a clever pass, he is slow, he has no rapport with the fans - nothing.   But if Lambert can see something you have to ask the question is Lambert imagining things or simply blindly stubborn and blindly loyal to a player he brought to the club.   KEA is the litmus paper test to the question does Lambert actually know what he is doing?

Couldn't agree more. KEA for me is amongst the 3  the most anonymous Villa midfield players  i've ever  seen,  the other two being David Hunt and Mark Kinsella. Sadly KEA has already played more games than those 2 put together, despite the fact that not one single performance has warrented  further selection. Today's latest dismal effort should really be his last, but somehow I doubt it will be.

Hmmm.  Don't rate KEA either - purely a squad player at best.  However, was awesome against Lpool and first half today.  What is the point in singling him out today? 

The problem is much bigger - owner/manager/squad.

I think it is because you can see what most players are about even if they are not that good at it, I think with KEA we cant work out what he is actually doing, he has not been awesome ever, barely average is the height of his powers.

Fair enough - I massively exaggerated with "awesome".  Just don't see what the point is looking at an individual after he was fairly decent today.  The problems run much deeper.

Agree the problems are much deeper, there were some awful performances out there today.

I don't get the KEA thing, I'm not saying he's a really good player but he has at times done some decent stuff,
 in fact most of the times when we have played our best football at Liverpool or 30 mins here and there in other games he has been in the midfield, he's also been in there when we have been rubbish but you know what I mean

now Sylla and Tonev for me are players that makes me feel the same way as others do about KEA, they re in a different league of crapness
when he bought Sylla on today you just knew that he was not going to improve the side, and he didn't disappoint,

for me just thinking about playing Sylla is enough to give Lamberts head a big shake, I think if he had bought on Albrighton instead we might have just won that game, as I don't think we were as terrible as this thread has made out especially in the first half, when we should have been at least a goal to the good at HT.

 but the biggy for me was Holt,
 I lost all confidence in PL when he signed that sack of spuds, and I know there are many who think it was a canny signing but not me,
 if Lambert in the winter window decides to spend 20-30k a week wages on a player who can make us a better team in the run in and the best he can come up with is Grant Holt then he best be on his way

[curiousorange]

This club is badly in need of some talent, in all areas. I don't want 'new blood' because we've had that and by and large, it hasn't helped. The next incoming, be it player or manager, has to be certain to arrest this pitiful decline.

[brian green]

There you have it in a nutshell.   KEA played okay today but we got beat by a shit Newcastle team.   Off the back of that "not so shit as he usually is" game he will be first name on the team sheet again next week and therein lie the problem.   Our players are just not good enough.   The ones we think are "good" are only better than the other rubbish.

In our corner of the Holte Lower KEA is known as "Rimmer" the hologram from Red Dwarf.  Made two goodish chances today in a game we lost and did not score.  Big deal, give HIM a new contract as well.

[Steve67]

Does anyone regret singing his name at Norwich now? The hierarchy gave us what many fans wanted and Lambert has proven not to be good enough.  Out of his depth at a truly great, big club.  We wonder why the club should listen to us at all? Lerner can't be bothered.  Faulkner knows less than I do about football.  What a complete shambles.

[Dave Clark Five]

Does anyone regret singing his name at Norwich now? The hierarchy gave us what many fans wanted and Lambert has proven not to be good enough.  Out of his depth at a truly great, big club.  We wonder why the club should listen to us at all? Lerner can't be bothered.  Faulkner knows less than I do about football.  What a complete shambles.

I didn't sing it and I thought the treatment that Alex McLeish got was an utter disgrace.

[brian green]

As you get older you realize people do change.   Some change for the better, some the worst.   I do not think it is automatic or spontaneous.   We are all very complex and live complicated lives.   Personal circumstances, health, finances or lack of, accidents - all of these things can change people in the most fundamental ways.

I sang Lambert's name at Norwich and do not regret doing it.   I wanted the Lambert they had but he is a million miles away from being the manager for us he was for them or for Colchester for that matter.   I sang Benteke's name and went on this forum with the opinion that he was the best centre forward I had ever seen play for Villa.   The man he was, was the best centre forward I had ever seen in a Villa shirt but he, for whatever highly complex reasons, is not the man he was.   People change.

[Clampy]

Does anyone regret singing his name at Norwich now? The hierarchy gave us what many fans wanted and Lambert has proven not to be good enough.  Out of his depth at a truly great, big club.  We wonder why the club should listen to us at all? Lerner can't be bothered.  Faulkner knows less than I do about football.  What a complete shambles.

I didn't sing it and I thought the treatment that Alex McLeish got was an utter disgrace.

I sang it, but I think what McLeish got that day was out of frustration but more where he come from.

[Dave Clark Five]

Does anyone regret singing his name at Norwich now? The hierarchy gave us what many fans wanted and Lambert has proven not to be good enough.  Out of his depth at a truly great, big club.  We wonder why the club should listen to us at all? Lerner can't be bothered.  Faulkner knows less than I do about football.  What a complete shambles.

I didn't sing it and I thought the treatment that Alex McLeish got was an utter disgrace.

I sang it, but I think what McLeish got that day was out of frustration but more where he come from.

Where he came from was denied by many as a reason for disliking him, but that was obviously rubbish. Until someone in the employ of the club does or says something that is clearly against the club, then I will hold back from such vitriol. I may want an incompetent person to be removed and will say so at the time but there is a limit of decency and it was broken at Norwich.

[eastie]

Does anyone regret singing his name at Norwich now? The hierarchy gave us what many fans wanted and Lambert has proven not to be good enough.  Out of his depth at a truly great, big club.  We wonder why the club should listen to us at all? Lerner can't be bothered.  Faulkner knows less than I do about football.  What a complete shambles.

I didn't sing it and I thought the treatment that Alex McLeish got was an utter disgrace.

I sang it, but I think what McLeish got that day was out of frustration but more where he come from.

Where he came from was denied by many as a reason for disliking him, but that was obviously rubbish. Until someone in the employ of the club does or says something that is clearly against the club, then I will hold back from such vitriol. I may want an incompetent person to be removed and will say so at the time but there is a limit of decency and it was broken at Norwich.

For some it was broken before he even arrived in those protests amid talk of burning the shirt , etc - he was never going to be accepted by some of those people and never stood a chance.

[eric woolban woolban]

If he doesn't get a win against Norwich, sack him. We would then have two weeks to get a replacement in.

If we do win and somehow he manages to keep us up, sack him Sunday 11th May at 5pm.

[pauliewalnuts]

Seven people don't want him sacked, if you are one of those why?  Not wanting an argument just wondering why?

I think sacking him now will just increase our chances of going down.

If we scrape survival again, then he should go in the summer.

It is quite clearly not good enough. Nothing like.

[eastie]

Seven people don't want him sacked, if you are one of those why?  Not wanting an argument just wondering why?

I think sacking him now will just increase our chances of going down.

If we scrape survival again, then he should go in the summer.

It is quite clearly not good enough. Nothing like.

I think the feelgood factor of a new man in charge may see is get the points we need - even if its just a caretaker till the end of the season - I'm not convinced we will get the points we need under lambert.

Bring in someone to see the season out and lift the club even if it means a big bonus to avoid the drop and then appoint koeman in the summer.

[London Villan]

We probably can't afford to sack him...