The Paul Lambert thread - poll reset after our capitulation to Hull

[IanB]

He should have walked on principle after the Chelsea debacle, but he has no integrity.

Of course he should go, how the hell he is getting away with this shambles I'll never know. As for the "small budget" crap that's exactly that - crap. Crapping crappy crapola crap. It's utter contemptible to take fans money and give them only one thing consistently - dire, clueless, pass-to-the-opposition hoofball. Those concerned should hang their heads in shame. Those who defend it all costs have certainly changed their tune from the Ellis days, that's for sure.

[danlanza]

He has cut a lot of players adrift, making internationals train with kids, and also clearly has a problem with Lowton - I'm not sure his man management skills are all that good and his motivational skills aren't working - his tactics seem dodgy to say the least so what exactly are his assets?

fuck All.

[aj2k77]

The bomb squad aswell, what a hilarious concept in man management. You earn too much money, youre out of the squad.

[Fergal]

He should have walked on principle after the Chelsea debacle, but he has no integrity.

Of course he should go, how the hell he is getting away with this shambles I'll never know. As for the "small budget" crap that's exactly that - crap. Crapping crappy crapola crap. It's utter contemptible to take fans money and give them only one thing consistently - dire, clueless, pass-to-the-opposition hoofball. Those concerned should hang their heads in shame. Those who defend it all costs have certainly changed their tune from the Ellis days, that's for sure.

In hindsight he should have been sacked after the cup farce last season.  He is just not up to the job of managing a club under a useless owner like Randy...

[sirlordbaltimore]

His motivational skills seems to exist entirely of clapping his hands together and shouting come on, as his backroom staff look at the floor bored out their minds

[Dave Clark Five]

Will the Villa fans turn on the Manager when we have so many young players in the side? Even if we lose at home to Norwich?  I just can't see it.

There were chants of 'You don't know what you're doing' when he brought Bennett on. I am surprised it took that long. Had they forgotten the words to it?

[eastie]

He has cut a lot of players adrift, making internationals train with kids, and also clearly has a problem with Lowton - I'm not sure his man management skills are all that good and his motivational skills aren't working - his tactics seem dodgy to say the least so what exactly are his assets?

fuck All.

I'm sick of hearing him say how randy is a great owner and how good his relationship is with faulkner - the whole club is a total shambles and it's us fans who are left to pick up the pieces after the three of them have all fucked off leaving their mess behind.

[5ft811st2 Durham]

KEA sums it all up for me.   Not just an inadequate player miles below premiership standard but the fact that Lambert sees something in him.

If somebody comes up to you in the street and says he has got a gold watch in his pocket you say show me the watch.   If he won't show you the watch you don't buy it.   Simple.   KEA shows us nothing.  Game after game, week after week, nothing.   But our manager picks him week after week, defeat after defeat but he continues to show nothing.   He can't tackle, he is no good in the air, he is not physically dominant, he cannot play a clever pass, he is slow, he has no rapport with the fans - nothing.   But if Lambert can see something you have to ask the question is Lambert imagining things or simply blindly stubborn and blindly loyal to a player he brought to the club.   KEA is the litmus paper test to the question does Lambert actually know what he is doing?

Couldn't agree more. KEA for me is amongst the 3  the most anonymous Villa midfield players  i've ever  seen,  the other two being David Hunt and Mark Kinsella. Sadly KEA has already played more games than those 2 put together, despite the fact that not one single performance has warranted  further selection. Today's latest dismal effort should really be his last, but somehow I doubt it will be.

[Steve67]

He has cut a lot of players adrift, making internationals train with kids, and also clearly has a problem with Lowton - I'm not sure his man management skills are all that good and his motivational skills aren't working - his tactics seem dodgy to say the least so what exactly are his assets?

Spot on.  He has tried to force those players on big salaries out of the club by ostracising them, in order that the club don't have to pay them off when they ask for a transfer.  It hasn't worked because all three of Hutton, Bent and Given are still at the club.  I wonder how much this actually costs Villa per week?  Good management? Allowing three players to sit on their arses and earn huge salaries for doing nothing?  Not in my opinion.  Even if they are only as good as the ones in the side ahead of the them.  Wiemann better than Bent? I appreciate that Bent is now at Fulham.

[myf]

KEA sums it all up for me.   Not just an inadequate player miles below premiership standard but the fact that Lambert sees something in him.

If somebody comes up to you in the street and says he has got a gold watch in his pocket you say show me the watch.   If he won't show you the watch you don't buy it.   Simple.   KEA shows us nothing.  Game after game, week after week, nothing.   But our manager picks him week after week, defeat after defeat but he continues to show nothing.   He can't tackle, he is no good in the air, he is not physically dominant, he cannot play a clever pass, he is slow, he has no rapport with the fans - nothing.   But if Lambert can see something you have to ask the question is Lambert imagining things or simply blindly stubborn and blindly loyal to a player he brought to the club.   KEA is the litmus paper test to the question does Lambert actually know what he is doing?

Couldn't agree more. KEA for me is amongst the 3  the most anonymous Villa midfield players  i've ever  seen,  the other two being David Hunt and Mark Kinsella. Sadly KEA has already played more games than those 2 put together, despite the fact that not one single performance has warrented  further selection. Today's latest dismal effort should really be his last, but somehow I doubt it will be.

Hmmm.  Don't rate KEA either - purely a squad player at best.  However, was awesome against Lpool and first half today.  What is the point in singling him out today? 

The problem is much bigger - owner/manager/squad.

[myf]

He has cut a lot of players adrift, making internationals train with kids, and also clearly has a problem with Lowton - I'm not sure his man management skills are all that good and his motivational skills aren't working - his tactics seem dodgy to say the least so what exactly are his assets?

Spot on.  He has tried to force those players on big salaries out of the club by ostracising them, in order that the club don't have to pay them off when they ask for a transfer.  It hasn't worked because all three of Hutton, Bent and Given are still at the club.  I wonder how much this actually costs Villa per week?  Good management? Allowing three players to sit on their arses and earn huge salaries for doing nothing?  Not in my opinion.  Even if they are only as good as the ones in the side ahead of the them.  Wiemann better than Bent? I appreciate that Bent is now at Fulham.

This isn't Lambert's fault though.  It's Lerner's - he bought the players.  He's to blame for that not Lambert.

[ChicagoLion]

KEA sums it all up for me.   Not just an inadequate player miles below premiership standard but the fact that Lambert sees something in him.

If somebody comes up to you in the street and says he has got a gold watch in his pocket you say show me the watch.   If he won't show you the watch you don't buy it.   Simple.   KEA shows us nothing.  Game after game, week after week, nothing.   But our manager picks him week after week, defeat after defeat but he continues to show nothing.   He can't tackle, he is no good in the air, he is not physically dominant, he cannot play a clever pass, he is slow, he has no rapport with the fans - nothing.   But if Lambert can see something you have to ask the question is Lambert imagining things or simply blindly stubborn and blindly loyal to a player he brought to the club.   KEA is the litmus paper test to the question does Lambert actually know what he is doing?

Couldn't agree more. KEA for me is amongst the 3  the most anonymous Villa midfield players  i've ever  seen,  the other two being David Hunt and Mark Kinsella. Sadly KEA has already played more games than those 2 put together, despite the fact that not one single performance has warrented  further selection. Today's latest dismal effort should really be his last, but somehow I doubt it will be.

Hmmm.  Don't rate KEA either - purely a squad player at best.  However, was awesome against Lpool and first half today.  What is the point in singling him out today? 

The problem is much bigger - owner/manager/squad.

I think it is because you can see what most players are about even if they are not that good at it, I think with KEA we cant work out what he is actually doing, he has not been awesome ever, barely average is the height of his powers.

[Dave Clark Five]

He has cut a lot of players adrift, making internationals train with kids, and also clearly has a problem with Lowton - I'm not sure his man management skills are all that good and his motivational skills aren't working - his tactics seem dodgy to say the least so what exactly are his assets?

Spot on.  He has tried to force those players on big salaries out of the club by ostracising them, in order that the club don't have to pay them off when they ask for a transfer.  It hasn't worked because all three of Hutton, Bent and Given are still at the club.  I wonder how much this actually costs Villa per week?  Good management? Allowing three players to sit on their arses and earn huge salaries for doing nothing?  Not in my opinion.  Even if they are only as good as the ones in the side ahead of the them.  Wiemann better than Bent? I appreciate that Bent is now at Fulham.

I have said the same for ages. Lambert is obviously as vindictive as O'Neill. Also, his substitutions are so similar that you could set your clock by them.

[Taylor]

I voted undecided, mainly because I have no idea who could turn it round. Laudrup maybe, but don't forget he managed a team below us in the league.

The thing that stands our for me, (and this cannot be blamed on Lambert) is the enigma that is Benteke, last season he was absolutely unplayable, when he received the ball something  happened. This season the ball just bounces off him. If Lambert, or anybody else for that matter can get him scoring again, we'll be OK.

[myf]

KEA sums it all up for me.   Not just an inadequate player miles below premiership standard but the fact that Lambert sees something in him.

If somebody comes up to you in the street and says he has got a gold watch in his pocket you say show me the watch.   If he won't show you the watch you don't buy it.   Simple.   KEA shows us nothing.  Game after game, week after week, nothing.   But our manager picks him week after week, defeat after defeat but he continues to show nothing.   He can't tackle, he is no good in the air, he is not physically dominant, he cannot play a clever pass, he is slow, he has no rapport with the fans - nothing.   But if Lambert can see something you have to ask the question is Lambert imagining things or simply blindly stubborn and blindly loyal to a player he brought to the club.   KEA is the litmus paper test to the question does Lambert actually know what he is doing?

Couldn't agree more. KEA for me is amongst the 3  the most anonymous Villa midfield players  i've ever  seen,  the other two being David Hunt and Mark Kinsella. Sadly KEA has already played more games than those 2 put together, despite the fact that not one single performance has warrented  further selection. Today's latest dismal effort should really be his last, but somehow I doubt it will be.

Hmmm.  Don't rate KEA either - purely a squad player at best.  However, was awesome against Lpool and first half today.  What is the point in singling him out today? 

The problem is much bigger - owner/manager/squad.

I think it is because you can see what most players are about even if they are not that good at it, I think with KEA we cant work out what he is actually doing, he has not been awesome ever, barely average is the height of his powers.

Fair enough - I massively exaggerated with "awesome".  Just don't see what the point is looking at an individual after he was fairly decent today.  The problems run much deeper.