Aston Villa v Sheffield United Post-Match Thread

[Jimbo]

Can I have my club back?

The one which motto is "Prepared" not "Pants".

With all the cutbacks, it'd be fitting to lose the 'Pre' bit of our motto and just leaved it as 'Pared'.

[rob_bridge]

I'm still too numb to write too much. But I will anyway.

Good to meet Mr Woodhall - well I have met him before several times but to formally introduce myself. The concourse in the Lower Witton was spacious and the draught beer was actually OK.

The match. Devoid of passion. Dire, turgid. No Leadership on or off the field. Why was Guzan 'rested' - he is our best player and at least shouts at the muppets. Tonev, Luna too poor to mention. Clark - Captain. Have we dropped so low that Championship player at best is our Captain? Not exactly Alan Evans is he? Weimann gave a disaply akin to Steve Hodge's in 1986.

We are in big trouble but so are 10 other clubs needing to feed on the breast of Premier League Milk. It may save us that there is more fear in them than us. Not skill, cohesion, talent, flair - just fear leading to ineptitude.

Lambert - out of his depth. Completely. Faulkner (it is his job) in hiring a football manager or (replacement) coach is so far out of his depth I wouldn't want him or Lerner to pick the next one. Not that it will happen in 2014 anyway.

As an aside well done the Blades and Clough Junior. It meant something to him - he was a good player IIRC but was absolutely ineffective in the one final his Old Man managed to get to.

[class_of_82]

It's a good job the internet wasn't up and running when we went into the 3rd division this site would of gone into meltdown. This is aston villa and let's be honest they have took us to the highest of highs and the lowest of lows we just can't do things the easy and logical way even sir Mervyn king said supporting the villa is more stressful than running the economy how right is he.
Over the years when we have threatened to build on our success we have fucked it up remember that wonderful flowing team of gray,little and deehan in the 70s just totally vanished when it should of been the basis of great things to come.
Even the team of 80/81 should have ruled England and Europe for years but Saunders said when he left that every position is covered from 1st team to reserve to youth team and that someone will mess it up in 2 years and how right he was.
I really have give up on blaming anyone anymore is it randy lerners fault for not splashing the cash or lamberts for not installing more fight in them or tactics being shite.keep the faith guys I remember walking down Wilton lane when we was relegated to the 3rd div all those years ago with my grandad and he said you have to keep believing and just over a decade later we all know what happened.
I love ham sandwiches but I love the villa more and if you knew how much I love ham sandwiches then you will know how much I love the villa they are like my kids you don't only love them when they are good you love them when they are bad and boy are we bad at the moment.

[olaftab]

Proud History, Bright Future, Murky Present.

Proud History, Murky Present, Anxious Future.

[damon loves JT]

So it's

1. Villa
2. Ham sandwiches
3. Your kids

Sounds about right. But a bit of piccalilli would put the sandwiches very close to the top of that list

[olaftab]

Very good post rob_bridge.

[rob_bridge]

It's a good job the internet wasn't up and running when we went into the 3rd division this site would of gone into meltdown. This is aston villa and let's be honest they have took us to the highest of highs and the lowest of lows we just can't do things the easy and logical way even sir Mervyn king said supporting the villa is more stressful than running the economy how right is he.
Over the years when we have threatened to build on our success we have fucked it up remember that wonderful flowing team of gray,little and deehan in the 70s just totally vanished when it should of been the basis of great things to come.
Even the team of 80/81 should have ruled England and Europe for years but Saunders said when he left that every position is covered from 1st team to reserve to youth team and that someone will mess it up in 2 years and how right he was.
I really have give up on blaming anyone anymore is it randy lerners fault for not splashing the cash or lamberts for not installing more fight in them or tactics being shite.keep the faith guys I remember walking down Wilton lane when we was relegated to the 3rd div all those years ago with my grandad and he said you have to keep believing and just over a decade later we all know what happened.
I love ham sandwiches but I love the villa more and if you knew how much I love ham sandwiches then you will know how much I love the villa they are like my kids you don't only love them when they are good you love them when they are bad and boy are we bad at the moment.

Great post and we may get ot the heights of 6th in the Premiership or Premier League again in the next decade or two - assuming no super pow wow Euro league is formed. Football has changed and we are now (dubious oil money aside) one of the best of the rest at best. 3rd tier - nope. League winners - never.

[myf]

Clark as captain! its become a circus

[villan1975]

So it's

1. Villa
2. Ham sandwiches
3. Your kids

Sounds about right. But a bit of piccalilli would put the sandwiches very close to the top of that list

Piccalilli really? That really takes the award for strangest thing said today and there has been some contenders. Surely any sane human being would have English mustard?

[damon loves JT]

So it's

1. Villa
2. Ham sandwiches
3. Your kids

Sounds about right. But a bit of piccalilli would put the sandwiches very close to the top of that list

Piccalilli really? That really takes the award for strangest thing said today and there has been some contenders. Surely any sane human being would have English mustard?

Mods, ban this poster.

[EmileHefty]

That was beyond crap, embarrassing. Sheff U showed us how to move he ball through midfield which we haven't seen all season. Weimann looks like a twelve year old with a poor first touch, and when on the rare occasion he managed a decent first touch he would fall over the ball or run it into a sheff u player. It looked like nothing is done in preparation on the training ground. Total shambles.  Westwood looks like a bloke who should be playing for Aberystwyth Town in the league of Wales with passes ending up in the trinity road middle tier. I just hope we turn up against Arse and get a point. This is worse than Bradford in my opinion as at least we just about looked better than Bradford.

[damon loves JT]

Actually, English mustard is also ace. Peace out to the ham sandwich massive

[olaftab]

Too late. villan1975 has been banned on your orders.

[villan1975]

Actually, English mustard is also ace. Peace out to the ham sandwich massive

Sorry, my new years resolution should be to accept all points of view no matter how alien and strange they may be.

[tomd2103]

I'd love to know what this plan is. And if we are on course to achieve it.  I could do with a laugh right now.

The plan is 40pts. We are on course for around 43pts. We have replaced high earners with low earners. This season is on course for being a success. That is it.

So we'd class this season as a success? Really?

I wouldn't I'd class this season as a footballing shambles but if we reach 43pts it will be heralded by that nobody Faulkner and Lambert as a success like a trophy, we will then be patronized by more bullshit about the project.

That was one of the most troubling aspects of his comments in the week for me.  The stuff about the FA Cup has been covered in detail elsewhere, but I thought his comments about simply 'surviving' in the league were telling.  Surely he has got more ambition than that?

As for what happened earlier, I just felt indifferent to it all really.  After feeling very down and hurt about performances and the way the club has been ridiculed in the media over the past few seasons, I think I've reached a level of acceptance now.  I just can't see it getting any better under Lerner and Lambert, and should Lambert go, I really can't see who would come in and make any difference.  We would all like to see some more money spent, but on the other hand don't want to see the club racking up massive debts.  I just get the feeling the club is stuck in a rut at the moment and is going to need big changes at every level to emerge from the current malaise it finds itself in.