Aston Villa v Sheffield United Post-Match Thread

[UK Redsox]

I have a wonderful brother, ex Marine Commando, decorated war hero.   Saw Villa play before WW2.   He took me to see us play Port Vale in the cup in about 1951.   Same sort of scenario as today, we were blown away at home by a team we were expected to dispense with without breaking sweat.   My brother took off his scarf, threw it on the concrete of the Holte End, jumped on it and has never been back since.   His grandsons come with us to the games.   They are both big shots in the disco industry, one in Ibiza the other one in Los Angeles.   A few short years later I was at Wembley watching Johnny Dixon lift the trophy our manager has little regard for.

The reason I mention this is that there are always better times ahead.   Keep the faith.   Do the pain.   Don't give up on the Villa.   Give up on Lambert by all means, give up on Faulkner, Lerner, Culverhouse, all of them but don't give up on Villa.   These men are tiny little pygmies in our proud and glorious history.

Never give up on Villa. Ever.

I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand

[LeeB]

I have a wonderful brother, ex Marine Commando, decorated war hero.   Saw Villa play before WW2.   He took me to see us play Port Vale in the cup in about 1951.   Same sort of scenario as today, we were blown away at home by a team we were expected to dispense with without breaking sweat.   My brother took off his scarf, threw it on the concrete of the Holte End, jumped on it and has never been back since.   His grandsons come with us to the games.   They are both big shots in the disco industry, one in Ibiza the other one in Los Angeles.   A few short years later I was at Wembley watching Johnny Dixon lift the trophy our manager has little regard for.

The reason I mention this is that there are always better times ahead.   Keep the faith.   Do the pain.   Don't give up on the Villa.   Give up on Lambert by all means, give up on Faulkner, Lerner, Culverhouse, all of them but don't give up on Villa.   These men are tiny little pygmies in our proud and glorious history.

Well said Brian.

[aj2k77]

We are very easy to set up against as well. With Lambert you know how the team will be sent out and what each player will be asked to do. That for me is a reason why so many of last year's newcomers are having a mare this year, the opposition have reacted to them whilst we plod along going through our usual match routine.

His plan A right now has been sussed out well and truly and he hasn't shown the intelligence or foresight to make a plan b yet.

Another reason I think he should go.

[eastie]

I have a wonderful brother, ex Marine Commando, decorated war hero.   Saw Villa play before WW2.   He took me to see us play Port Vale in the cup in about 1951.   Same sort of scenario as today, we were blown away at home by a team we were expected to dispense with without breaking sweat.   My brother took off his scarf, threw it on the concrete of the Holte End, jumped on it and has never been back since.   His grandsons come with us to the games.   They are both big shots in the disco industry, one in Ibiza the other one in Los Angeles.   A few short years later I was at Wembley watching Johnny Dixon lift the trophy our manager has little regard for.

The reason I mention this is that there are always better times ahead.   Keep the faith.   Do the pain.   Don't give up on the Villa.   Give up on Lambert by all means, give up on Faulkner, Lerner, Culverhouse, all of them but don't give up on Villa.   These men are tiny little pygmies in our proud and glorious history.

Lovely and heartwarming post .

[Walmley_Villa]

We are very easy to set up against as well. With Lambert you know how the team will be sent out and what each player will be asked to do. That for me is a reason why so many of last year's newcomers are having a mare this year, the opposition have reacted to them whilst we plod along going through our usual match routine.

His plan A right now has been sussed out well and truly and he hasn't shown the intelligence or foresight to make a plan b yet.

Another reason I think he should go.

Spot on. We haven't evolved. We can't react or be flexible during a game. Bradford was a low point for me. Unable to beat a team 3 divisions below over two games is shameful.

[kippaxvilla2]

Rather than sack him now why not bring Steve Clarke in as a Coach.  He was brilliant as that at Chelsea and knows Lambert from their playing days.  Just a thought.

[eastie]

We are very easy to set up against as well. With Lambert you know how the team will be sent out and what each player will be asked to do. That for me is a reason why so many of last year's newcomers are having a mare this year, the opposition have reacted to them whilst we plod along going through our usual match routine.

His plan A right now has been sussed out well and truly and he hasn't shown the intelligence or foresight to make a plan b yet.

Another reason I think he should go.

Spot on. We haven't evolved. We can't react or be flexible during a game. Bradford was a low point for me. Unable to beat a team 3 divisions below over two games is shameful.

I felt millwall was the lowest point on the back of the bradford debacle - in truth he would have been fired several times over by some clubs - he is very lucky to still be here .

[john e]

If the home crowd turn on him, he will go. Bolton was the moment McLeish was a goner. A similar reaction towards Lambert and it will be all over I reckon.

Mcliesh went because
we didn't want him in the first place
we were playing utterly shit football
we were fighting relegation

only one of those apply to Lambert so far, if the fans turn on him big time then I agree hes a gona, but its going to take more than a few internet posters to do that

6 in 26 at home.Randys finger must be twitching.And has for your last line oh dear has it come to that.

do you honestly think, honestly that Randys finger is twitching ?
 when the club he owns sits half way up the league and the managers done it by paying some of the lowest wages in the premier league whilst getting rid of some of the highest

I know because of our previous history of falling out, you may think I'm brewing for a argument, but on this occasion I'm not
I'm just trying to put over the difference in what we as fans see and what the club owner sees

even my point about internet fans wasn't a jibe, only until the fans in the stands start to make a noise and protest will the club start to get botherd whilst we are safe in league terms,
 and in fairness Villa fans have never been very good at that, so I don't think the end is nigh is quite so nigh as others do,
that's all I'm trying to say in the nicest possible way,

[VillaAlways]

How is he still in a job? Our lack of ambition is utterly humilliating

[b23]

You putting up the bunting? You sound happy things are the way they are and you can stick your finger in the face of others claiming you were right all along. Others just wanted to give the project a chance. You never, ever did. That's the bit you are missing entirely.

"The project" *buries head in hands*

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23362207

Exactly. The "project" was a lie. Cutbacks wrapped up in ribbons. Some of us didn't fall for it and got stick for saying it.

Ah yes, some of us...you mean you two. It doesn't what you call it, the measures needed to be taken. Or maybe you think Lerner should have stuck with MON and sent us into oblivion? Neither of you have a solution other than being critical of everything.

To be fair Toronto Villa, its not for hilts_coolerking or saunders_heroes to find the solution.

There are, or there should be, people at the club to sort this out.

Sadly, even if they are at the club, they are not doing their job very well.

Lambert should offer his resignation tonight or tomorrow.

I dont think Lerner would accept it though.

Sad times.

[itbrvilla]

I've tried, I really have, but enough is enough.

I cannot stand any more of this.

Please put us out of our (abject) misery and go Lambert.

He beat Sunderland didn't you know?!?!

[danlanza]

You putting up the bunting? You sound happy things are the way they are and you can stick your finger in the face of others claiming you were right all along. Others just wanted to give the project a chance. You never, ever did. That's the bit you are missing entirely.

"The project" *buries head in hands*

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23362207

Exactly. The "project" was a lie. Cutbacks wrapped up in ribbons. Some of us didn't fall for it and got stick for saying it.

Ah yes, some of us...you mean you two. It doesn't what you call it, the measures needed to be taken. Or maybe you think Lerner should have stuck with MON and sent us into oblivion? Neither of you have a solution other than being critical of everything.

To be fair Toronto Villa, its not for hilts_coolerking or saunders_heroes to find the solution.

There are, or there should be, people at the club to sort this out.

Sadly, even if they are at the club, they are not doing their job very well.

Lambert should offer his resignation tonight or tomorrow.

I dont think Lerner would accept it though.

Sad times.

There will be no resignation or sacking. Lambert is doing what Lerner wanted. Exactly what Lerner wanted.

[itbrvilla]

You putting up the bunting? You sound happy things are the way they are and you can stick your finger in the face of others claiming you were right all along. Others just wanted to give the project a chance. You never, ever did. That's the bit you are missing entirely.

"The project" *buries head in hands*

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23362207

Exactly. The "project" was a lie. Cutbacks wrapped up in ribbons. Some of us didn't fall for it and got stick for saying it.

Ah yes, some of us...you mean you two. It doesn't what you call it, the measures needed to be taken. Or maybe you think Lerner should have stuck with MON and sent us into oblivion? Neither of you have a solution other than being critical of everything.

.

To be fair Toronto Villa, its not for hilts_coolerking or saunders_heroes to find the solution.

There are, or there should be, people at the club to sort this out.

Sadly, even if they are at the club, they are not doing their job very well.

Lambert should offer his resignation tonight or tomorrow.

I dont think Lerner would accept it though.

Sad times.

There will be no resignation or sacking. Lambert is doing what Lerner wanted. Exactly what Lerner wanted.

What's that? Accelerating the already rapidly declining reputation and standing of our club? Both doing a great job.

[eastie]

Paul Lambert confessed it “hurts like hell” after Aston Villa fans threw abuse and torn up tickets at him after their latest cup catastrophe .

Lambert was jeered as he trudged down the Trinity Road touchline to the tunnel after the embarrassing FA Cup exit to League One Sheffield United.

 The 2-1 defeat was Villa’s third cup knockout in less than a year following Capital One Cup and FA Cup humiliations against Bradord and Millwall last season.

As the Lambert and his players departed the Villa Park field to the loudest boos of the season, a pair of fans ripped up tickets and threw them at the manager.

“I never saw that to be honest,” said Lambert.

 “But I’ve been in game long enough to know what it’s like. I’m as gutted as everyone "

“It hurts like hell. Anyone who knows me knows I’m not the happiest person when I lose, or when my team lose.

“As I’ve said before you try and win as many games as you can and I’ve been involved in big games before and had good feelings.

“But anyone who knows me knows I’m not a good loser.“It hurts, definitely.

“Was it my lowest moment here?

The Bradford one’s up there, that was a sore one – but any game I lose I feel low. It’s just magnified because of what’s happened against a lower league side. It certainly hurts, that’s for sure.

”Lambert played down accusations that his pre-match comments demeaned the competition and insisted his suggestion clubs could ‘do without’ the competition had been taken out of context.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-paul-lambert-says-6468985

[bertlambshank]

Half way up the league or 6 points off relegation.