Aston Villa v Swansea City Post-Match Thread

[SX150]

Absolutely astonished people do not see a problem with 27% possession. That's forgetting we are at home and against a mid table side.

[Chris Smith]

27% possession at home against anyone is completely unacceptable. Anyone saying that the fact they didn't produce much is missing the point. At home you need to be able to stamp your authority on the game and if you don't you'll lose most games. Our possession stats at home are a massive reason as to why we've for terrible results.

Yet we had more possession against Palace and came away with zero points. Too much store is put by these stats, for a start I am not convinced you can take their accuracy at face value and they really only tell part of the story.

[SX150]

I am guessing there is nothing wrong with your Goalkeeper being your playmaker and having more possession?

[Dave Cooper please]

Take a look at the reports on the BBC website for Swansea's games, they have had more possession in every game I've loked at so far, including games at Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City. That's how they play.

27% is bad, but we were never going to out-possess Swansea if the likes of the above can't do it on their patch are we?

[Ad@m]

27% possession at home against anyone is completely unacceptable. Anyone saying that the fact they didn't produce much is missing the point. At home you need to be able to stamp your authority on the game and if you don't you'll lose most games. Our possession stats at home are a massive reason as to why we've for terrible results.

Yet we had more possession against Palace and came away with zero points. Too much store is put by these stats, for a start I am not convinced you can take their accuracy at face value and they really only tell part of the story.

Exactly.

I'm not ignoring the possession stats, we absolutely need to keep hold of the ball much better or we'll struggle, but people seem to jumping on the possession stats against Swansea when it was obvious before the game they would be like that.  It's a meaningless way of assessing yesterday's game.

[SX150]

Take a look at the reports on the BBC website for Swansea's games, they have had more possession in every game I've loked at so far, including games at Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City. That's how they play.

27% is bad, but we were never going to out-possess Swansea if the likes of the above can't do it on their patch are we?

Agreed if it was a one off for us.

[eastie]

It's not so much the possession stats but do we really want to see our players chasing shadows as the other team passes that ball - to create chances and score goals you need the ball .

Our players do so much chasing they will be totally knackered late  this season.

[SX150]

When we do seem to achieve some kind of possession it is mainly in our own half. Against Palace we had a throw in on their 18 yard box. Albrighton with the option of 2 on 3 chose to throw it to midfield who passed it to Clark who passed it to Baker to Luna to Baker etc. Not saying possession is everything as I have just shown but along with how they are being coached is killing us.

[barrysleftfoot]

 I'm not bothered about the stats.It was the complete lack of any kind of quality football.We all know that Swansea pass for passings sake sometimes, but i bet the stats are know where near 73% against  the afore mentioned team

[phantom limb]

I wonder if it's a confidence issue as well, where you have players so scared of giving the ball away they're just taking the easier option and passing it back to Clark/Baker/Guzan, who then inevitably boot it upfield and back to the opposition.

[SX150]

I wonder if it's a confidence issue as well, where you have players so scared of giving the ball away they're just taking the easier option and passing it back to Clark/Baker/Guzan, who then inevitably boot it upfield and back to the opposition.

That's how it looks to me. I don't believe it is fear of the crowd as they seem to be behind the team to me. It makes me wonder what they are coaching them at Bodymoor.

[Ads]

The crowd are awful. It was like a pantomime wih all the booing and whinning.

[Dr_Fegg]

Blimey, another match to forget but whilst I've still got a season ticket (not sure about next year) I can see a number of (some already posted) issues;

I think our biggest issue  is confidence. Everyone seems happy to berate the defence and guzan for hoofing but with no options and a midfield who seem to hide then the choices are limited. I've actually got some sympathy (only a littel bit) for Luna, Baker, Clark and Lowton as they get fuck-all support/protection/help from the midfield which is why they always look on the back foot.

Whoever had the idea of playing Weimann on the "left-wing" needs to watch that match again. How many times did this happen....Luna recevies ball, looks up for ball down line, no player there so back to baker....this isnt his fault.

Other assorted moans - Throw-ins. Why do we take so fucking long and then do nothing, especially in their last third. You cant be offside and any player can throw the ball more than 10ft (even at under 16 level) so why not try and create...

Free kicks - Again if theres a plan then fine but to watch our centre halves trot from one end to the other for a free kick which then goes sideways followed by loss of possession and everyone out of position is disgusting. If I was Baker or Clark I'd have ripped the midfielders head off. If youre not going to try and give me a chance fucking tell me and I wont bother.

The pressing game - worked great for 10 mins, we scored and then stopped WHY!!!!!

Drop Weimann and give Helenius a game

play 4-4-2.

Bring in some of the reserves or fringe players, if you keep doing the same thing with the same players you'll get the same results. Losing wouldnt be so bad if we at least tried some different players/tactics

subs before 70 mins please

Phew, possibly my longest post ever, goes away to lie down and contemplate getting a ticket for the cup game......

[eastie]

The crowd are awful. It was like a pantomime wih all the booing and whinning.

Blame it on the baddie .

I'd like to see Grealish recalled and given a run in the team .

[BoskoDjembaSalifou]

Absolutely astonished people do not see a problem with 27% possession. That's forgetting we are at home and against a mid table side.

One of those people is Paul Lambert