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Offline Isa

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #105 on: December 26, 2013, 09:44:53 PM »
Ronald Koeman would be my choice. I follow Feyenoord and he has done a terrific job there. Used to working on modest resources, plays a similar 4-3-3 system and good at promoting academy players. I think he would be a good fit.

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #106 on: December 26, 2013, 09:56:04 PM »
Ronald Koeman would be my choice. I follow Feyenoord and he has done a terrific job there. Used to working on modest resources, plays a similar 4-3-3 system and good at promoting academy players. I think he would be a good fit.

Finally a sane suggestion

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #107 on: December 26, 2013, 09:57:18 PM »
Solksjaer?

Do you feel a bit empty tonight too Paulie? Almost like one kick in the guts too many has finally broken your spirit?

I feel broken. I'll support Lambert with whatever I have left until the end but I feel like a video game character who's energy level is fucked. Ammo low, no medical kit in sight, pinned down in a building, the enemy surrounding me.
I'm with all 3 of you; drained and disheartened; embarrassed and let down; pissed.

Re manager: I want a chairman and manager who are winners - I don't feel the passion, the drive and the commitment to want to win at VP right now. It's all far too "stay in the Premiership and pick up the dosh" rather than "Actually, we want to compete for all the trophies going, and we'll make a serious bid to do so."
« Last Edit: December 26, 2013, 10:01:53 PM by Mister E »

Offline citizenDJ

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #108 on: December 26, 2013, 10:03:35 PM »
Ronald Koeman would be on my list if I was in charge of the making the next appointment.

Solskjaer, Malky Mackay, Goncharenko (not sure about this one, but more research might come up trumps), Vito Pereira, Peter Bosz, all names that are doing pretty well at the moment and tipped for big things.

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #109 on: December 26, 2013, 10:05:46 PM »
Solksjaer?

Do you feel a bit empty tonight too Paulie? Almost like one kick in the guts too many has finally broken your spirit?

I feel broken. I'll support Lambert with whatever I have left until the end but I feel like a video game character who's energy level is fucked. Ammo low, no medical kit in sight, pinned down in a building, the enemy surrounding me.
I'm with all 3 of you; drained and disheartened; embarrassed and let down; pissed.

Re manager: I want a chairman and manager who are winners - I don't feel the passion, the drive and the commitment to want to win at VP right now. It's all far too "stay in the Premiership and pick up the dosh" rather than "Actually, we want to compete for all the trophies going, and we'll make a serious bid to do so."

It just rammed it home as the ball hit the net that we are now so bad at VP that Palace came and deserved to win. We look like a club on its knees waiting to be put out of its misery. There was optimism when Lambert came. Now there is just fear of how bad it can still get. We are in big, big trouble, and need to sort it out fast. Since Vlaar got injured we have lost all 4 games.

If Lambert is staying, someone needs to give him 15 million and tell him to buy 3 players who are all over 25 and all have a voice. And to stop turning his nose up to loaning players.

Offline pooligan

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #110 on: December 26, 2013, 10:27:39 PM »
Would promote Tony McAndrew as caretaker manager  for now, he could'nt be any worse. I watch the youth team and he seems to do ok with them

Offline villan1975

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #111 on: December 26, 2013, 10:28:06 PM »
Are people really suggesting we hire a manager because they speak well on sky? Hoddle was a great coach but an awful manager who has been out of the game for an age. Neville has managed exactly how many clubs? We have fallen a great deal in recent years but we are surely in with a shout of a manager? I would take Rednapp in an instant, hate him as a person but his sides always play good football and he knows the game.

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #112 on: December 26, 2013, 10:38:26 PM »
Koeman or Riijkard for me.

Offline Villa in Denmark

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #113 on: December 26, 2013, 10:48:48 PM »
This isn't a job for the likes of Lambert (or OGS at the moment) They're far too green, it's simply too big a hop from Norwich (or Molde) to us (especially with only two years under his bet in the top 2 flights when appointed) as the expectation level (despite recent downgradings) is just vastly different to most jobs in this league.  The team has looked devoid of confidence and composure all season, and that must surely come from PL himself.

People outside of the club, consistently underestimate how big a club we are and how big the challenge is (especially right now).  I'm sure Lambert arrived not fully appreciating what he'd taken on, and now looks like a startled rabbit caught in the headlights, which appears to be reflected in the players  If Lamber does get his P45 then it needs to be with the modern day equivalent of a BFR waiting in the wings, someone with the personality to cope with the job and the expectation levels.  Ironically if his football hadn't been so god awful, McLeish would have been ideal.

Steer well clear of any Scandinavian league hotshots (and that includes OGS) at the moment, especially if they have a huge financial advantage over their rivals. Ståle Solbakken was the most successful coach in Denmark of recent times, winning god knows how many SupaLiga titles and Danish Cups, even getting FCK to the knock out stages of CL, but fell flat on his arse at both Cologne and Wolves. He's now back at FCK and transformed them from relegation candidates to favourites for the title in the space of 7 or 8 games.  The leagues over here are simply too weak to judge a coaches ability when transferred to the top flights of the better leagues.
They'd need to go through the Dutch or Belgian leagues for a few seasons before I'd trust them.

It doesn't have to be Premier League experience, the daftest restriction I can think of.  Despite out flirtation with OGS, we still ended up with just that.  But it must be someone with a record in one of the better leagues, and of at least managing a club approaching our size / stature / aspirations. 

Offline Walmley_Villa

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #114 on: December 26, 2013, 10:50:50 PM »
Unfortunately I have little or no faith in Lerner or Faulkner making a decent appointment.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #115 on: December 26, 2013, 10:55:14 PM »
Unfortunately I have little or no faith in Lerner or Faulkner making a decent appointment.

Absolutely. There is practically zero chance they will get someone in better. There are people who's discarded toenails know more about on field football matters.

May they can receive another letter from Fergie advocating Mark McGhee or Darren Ferguson

Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #116 on: December 26, 2013, 11:11:09 PM »
I have had only a couple of drinks after driving and a meal with the family and calmed down after watching that atrocity today. I have decided I am still backing Lambert for now - he dug us out of a worse trough last year - but if he were to go I would bring in a manager from China:

Marcello Lippi.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #117 on: December 26, 2013, 11:25:24 PM »
Why would Malky Mckay be any better?

Like Lambert all he's done is promoted a club and maybe keep them in the league.

I remember how negative Cardiff were at VP earlier this season, they came for a 0-0 which was laughable given how bad we are at home.

He's another decent manager who might be a good one but I don't see him being a significant upgrade personally.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #118 on: December 26, 2013, 11:28:58 PM »
Why would Malky Mckay be any better?

Like Lambert all he's done is promoted a club and maybe keep them in the league.

I remember how negative Cardiff were at VP earlier this season, they came for a 0-0 which was laughable given how bad we are at home.

He's another decent manager who might be a good one but I don't see him being a significant upgrade personally.

Agree - I'd give Lambert the next 3 games. In US terms a losing record and it should be good bye

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Re: and then who?
« Reply #119 on: December 26, 2013, 11:31:29 PM »
Mike Phelan

 


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