Aston Villa v Crystal Palace Post-Match Thread

[Walmley_Villa]

Lerner and Lambert both out for me. Between them they have managed to 'shape' the worst Villa side I can remember. The squad is devoid of any quality and can't even do the basics. As others have said you can't expect to compete with a bunch of kids and lower league players. We deserve to know the plan but I fear there isn't one.

Even if the wallet is opened in January I wouldn't trust Lambert with it.

Totally disillusioned of Walmley.

Apparently over the last 3 years we have the worst home record in any major European league.

[Legion]

That was shocking. Worst all-round display and performance I can remember for many years. Poor ball control, awful ball retention and overall lack of creativity.

[Goldie.7]

Gabby is useless he has one good game then just runs around fast for the next 8. I don't want him here forever. How many games has he played now, he'll never improve.

[Jimbo]

People are taking about the plan, and the way I see it the plan is not about what we will do, but what we will not do.

[Goldie.7]

so how many home wins in 2013 ?

5 in the league in 2013....FIVE!!!!

Or his 56 games in charge = 15 wins home and away. Abysmal

[SoccerHQ]

If it had ended 0-0 as it should've then we'd have got away with it just like the Sunderland game.

Palace deserved that for the second half performance.

Left back is a problem. Luna has turned into a major liability as Bolaise was getting past him so much but with Bennett unfit the only other alternatives are centre halfs. Who plays lb for the youth team?

I think it's got to a point now where whatever personel, formation we put out the players have it in their minds they just can't win at Villa Park. The reality is what has saved us from no home wins this season is two excellent Bacuna free kicks from 25 yards.

Not good, not good at all. At bleeding Xmas again aswell.

[Ivo Stas]

Does anyone remember how many points we had after Boxing Day last season?

I'll have a go at answering my own question: I think we had one less point (18) this time last year (and we probably have a better goal difference which may ultimately count for another point).

[Tuco Salamanca]

We are the worst side in the league at the moment and getting worse every week. We've all seen some shit down at VP in the past but this is incredible.

Big changes need to occur for us not to go down. Probably involving the manner and a P45. I just don't see another way out.

Very depressing.

[Irish villain]

Does anyone remember how many points we had after Boxing Day last season?

I'll have a go at answering my own question: I think we had one less point (18) this time last year (and we probably have a better goal difference which may ultimately count for another point).

Correct. We then got three draws before we played West Ham in mid February:against Swansea, West Brom and Everton.

In short, we needto pick up points asap or another amazing end of season run will be needed to keep us up.

[Goldie.7]

Palace deserved that for the second half performance.

My cousin supports them i'm happy for him. Yep they fully deserved to win, Swansea fans must be going crazy on twitter right now.

[Tuscans]

so how many home wins in 2013 ?

5 in the league in 2013....FIVE!!!!

Almost a win every 4 games...that's going down this season form.

We were only lucky last season that there were 3 worse teams than us....can we rely on that this year....I hope not.

Or his 56 games in charge = 15 wins home and away. Abysmal

[SoccerHQ]

Does anyone remember how many points we had after Boxing Day last season?

I'll have a go at answering my own question: I think we had one less point (18) this time last year (and we probably have a better goal difference which may ultimately count for another point).

Problem is a couple of weeks we were 4-5 points better than last season and really with a decent run on paper that should still be the case.

I really don't see being marginally better than last season as any sort of achievement given the shambolic state we were in this time last year, we're not far off that now.

And I think we'll need more points to stay up than whatever Wigan went down on (think it was 36) as the teams in the bottom 3 are more capable of getting wins than the ones down there last year as we've seen with Fulham and Sunderland also both winning today.

[PeterWithesShin]

How the smeg did KEA and Weimann stay on the pitch so long? Weimann was truly awful yet again, one of my concerns now with Lambert is that despite the poor for of Weimann he is a regular starter. Even if The Gladiator only has one leg, how the fuck can he be any less effective?

[hilts_coolerking]

That was shocking. Worst all-round display and performance I can remember for many years. Poor ball control, awful ball retention and overall lack of creativity.

Sadly all that's been generally true of us for quite a while now.

[Toronto Villa]

I was very disappointed that we didn't get Solskjær at the time, and of the prospective candidates I thought Lambert the least impressive, with a mixed record of physical football and lots of long balls to big men. My views on him have changed significantly and there's a lot about him which impresses me, but the disconnect between the football he wants to play and the football he knows how to play is enormous.

The thing is we have seen what is possible. That didn't happen by accident. When Benteke got injured we were still doing well and playing well. And though we won that day the quality of our football has got progressively worse since. Transition should have been maintaining certain aspects and improving other things and I think when he got injured that disrupted those plans. That said, what has happened since is way worse than any of us could have imagined. Not as much the results but the level of play is hideous. If he remains which I suspect he will he needs to view this window as his salvation. He needs to get it right and very quickly.