Aston Villa v Crystal Palace Post-Match Thread

[JUAN PABLO]

and someone said Palace never won at VP for 22 years

we are really breaking these records this season

Sheff Utd will do us

[Boz]

I've already predicted a 3-1 win but I'm feeling even more confident now and I'll go for a 5-1 Villa win. I can't believe the level of negativity on here, we're talking about Palace, the worst team in the league. If we can't beat them today we may as well close up. We may be a crap footballing side but today we'll shine.

Optimism from the pre match thread. If Palace are the worst, doesn't say much for Villa.

Ha! The optimism was based on the concept that we can't be shit forever. I forgot to factor in Lambert's tactics. He really went for the point today, so credit to Palace, they deserved all 3 despite being shite. Hopefully we'll bring somebody (anybody) in before the Swansea game, even if it's just in a caretaker role.

Wasn't meant to be dig Rudy, just that under Lambert even the eternal optimist will come to an end point and today might be it.

Why Lerner and his board give long contracts in a results driven business, when payment should be linked to the success of the team, especially when the team members are brought in by the manager.

It's surely time for Lerner to be strong and send Lambert on his way, but after sounding out replacements first I trust.

[SheffieldVillain]

Where are the Lerner apologists? According to them we're all moaners and can't see the bigger picture......

Grow up.

[Goldie.7]

Utter garbage - too many players not good enough at this level and Guzan saved us from defeat .
Not sure that lambert really knows how to sort this - time to get him out!

Maybe you should wait until the final whistle next time rather then trying to be first on here.

Wrong thread wtf.

[saunders_heroes]

I know it's a cliche but some cliches are true, but if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. It's Lerner's pitiful budget that is dragging us down. This is why the likes of Martinez and OGS turned us down. They took one look at their budget and said "no thanks". Until this changes we'll always be a perennial relegation battler or even a Championship club.

[JUAN PABLO]

We''ll "part company" with Lambert and have the same problem soon enough. A team assembled on the cheap - too many not good enough or in shocking form. Would an AVB or a Steve Clarke get any better out of this lot? Lerner is gambling on there being three teams worse than us again. I had a ticket for today but in the end I couldn't be bothered with a 200 mile round trip. That's three I've missed for various reasons now and I've no regrets. And I suspect there will be more like me.

Pullis would for eg

there is  teams who have had less money playing much better football  .   Hes tactics are awful

[caster troy]

Is that 6 out of 9 home games where we haven't scored? That stat alone is enough ammunition to get rid.

We have a one man midfield and Lambert has had more than enough time to do better than that.

[PaulWinch again]

The club needs a complete change of direction.

[levico]

Simply not good enough.   Lerner cant be blind to this, surely?

I think you'll find that he is. Witness our slow but sure slide to the bottom three without any sign of censure.

[Boz]

Lets find the positives then. errrr.....

65% possession, their keeper made some nice saves and we lost at the last gasp to a very nice strike?

Thats all I got

Most of it in their own half when the opposition is happy for us to keep it there

[pbavfckuwait]

A performance that sums up Aston Villa 2013 and us going forward, no style, no class and no idea, if Hell cant get into that team the cones must be better than him in training, god dam awful Villa, Lambert turn the light off on your way out, because if you are here till May, we will have the real derby next year.

[edgysatsuma89]

I really think he wants it to be better.

I really think he has signed some players who will turn out to have good Villa careers.

I really think he sees that the style of play isn't good enough.

However, he clearly does not know what to do. He signs players who can play good passing football, but has no idea how to coach them to do it. So sometimes they pass the ball well kind of by accident, but mostly they're clueless and aimless in possession. For that reason alone, he cannot continue. If he won't improve, then he must go.

I'm never quite sure why with Lambert people always talk about him "wanting things to be better".

As though there are managers out there who "want" to be shit and to lose football matches...

Sorry, that's not a dig at you, I just think Lambert gets so much good will it's untrue at times.

I tried to make this point the other day, but was incredibly crap at doing it. This is exactly what I think.

[kippaxvilla2]

We pick ourselves up and go again.

[eamonn]

I know it's a cliche but some cliches are true, but if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. It's Lerner's pitiful budget that is dragging us down. This is why the likes of Martinez and OGS turned us down. They took one look at their budget and said "no thanks". Until this changes we'll always be a perennial relegation battler or even a Championship club.

Lambert doesn't spend all of his budget, that's part of the problem.

[mr woo]

I've said before this side is reminiscent of the 86-87 squad, and I fear it will all end up the same way, in relegation with the better kids going on to have good careers at other clubs.

I'm sorry, Paul looks out of his depth. He brought in his backroom staff this summer and it's made little or no difference.
He stubbornly refuses to address his own failings with his blinkered transfer policy. We all said we needed experienced cover in defence for when Vlaar had his annual lay off.
We all said we needed creativity in midfield, a decent wide man and someone who could put his foot in and bully a game. Just about the only thing we didn't need was a 6'4 striker, because we'd just had our existing one sign a new deal.

Clarke and AVB amongst others have lost their jobs yet shown far more competence in just about every aspect. I wonder whether Randy shows a little too much loyalty sometimes, and so doubt Lambert will be sacked.

Unless we spend big, and spend well in Jan,  we really are in the shit.

Problem is, even if Lerner splashes the cash, would you trust Lambert to spend it wisely?