Paul Lambert on Randy Lerner .

[danlanza]

surely the latter point it's a complete contradiction of what CL was saying there Eastie.  The 1 positive that Jose Mourinho brings to the sport is the proof that you don't have to have played at any meaningful standard to be a successful manager in 3 of the 4 toughest leagues in the world.

And playing at the highest level does not guarantee success as a manager.  By my reckoning of the current premier league managers, only Laudrup could be regarded as being more successful than Lambert as a player. Mark Hughes has not won the European Cup/Champions league.

He does have a better mullet than both Lambert and Laudrup though. Maybe we need a manager with a huge mullet.

[supertom]

Occasionally they have a plan of who they'll get it but it doesn't quite transpire. We openly courted Martinez before McLeish, and OGS before getting Lambert.

The difference is that in both those cases the season was over and there was time to look at it properly. The original point about getting rid of a manager with no idea about who would be brought in is really about when it happens during the season. Spurs don't seem to have anyone in mind, neither do Albion and in their case the decision could bring them into a relegation dogfight. Another example would be Wolves a couple of years ago. They would have probably still gone down had they kept McCarthy but they got rid of him and completely collapsed - to the point of back-to-back relegations. The lack of vision from the top at these clubs is really mind boggling. 

Yep. I also don't think we'd get any sort of decent replacement in mid season. Without breaking the bank on a decent manager. Any new man worth his salt, we might be able to attract will want a summer to assess the squad and change as and where needs be.
I think Lambert has to see out the season, for better or worse.

[saunders_heroes]

"It's not a challenge I will run away from. This job is years - not just one or two. "

Thank god for that. I was fearing Lambert may have been wobbling after the silly booing at home recently. Glad to hear he is in for the long term.

We will come good and he & Randy are the right men to take the club forward.

Silly booing? Do you expect the players to be applauded off the pitch after yet another dreadful home performance?

[ciggiesnbeer]

"It's not a challenge I will run away from. This job is years - not just one or two. "

Thank god for that. I was fearing Lambert may have been wobbling after the silly booing at home recently. Glad to hear he is in for the long term.

We will come good and he & Randy are the right men to take the club forward.

Silly booing? Do you expect the players to be applauded off the pitch after yet another dreadful home performance?

I think the home support has been poor this season. I find the booing silly and an over reaction. It smacks of Arsenal levels petulant fans. I want us to be better than that.

I far preferred the open defiance of last season when Lamberts name was sung even in our darkest hour.

[eastie]

Occasionally they have a plan of who they'll get it but it doesn't quite transpire. We openly courted Martinez before McLeish, and OGS before getting Lambert.

The difference is that in both those cases the season was over and there was time to look at it properly. The original point about getting rid of a manager with no idea about who would be brought in is really about when it happens during the season. Spurs don't seem to have anyone in mind, neither do Albion and in their case the decision could bring them into a relegation dogfight. Another example would be Wolves a couple of years ago. They would have probably still gone down had they kept McCarthy but they got rid of him and completely collapsed - to the point of back-to-back relegations. The lack of vision from the top at these clubs is really mind boggling. 

Yep. I also don't think we'd get any sort of decent replacement in mid season. Without breaking the bank on a decent manager. Any new man worth his salt, we might be able to attract will want a summer to assess the squad and change as and where needs be.
I think Lambert has to see out the season, for better or worse.

I wonder if the club were alerted to OGS being available now whether a poor run of results over christmas would tempt  Randy to go back for him , or if he has blown his chance of the job in future ?

[Fuse]

Lambert is going nowhere. Lerner and he have agreed on the strategy and I dont think he will be under pressure unless we get relegated. I think they genuinely see this as taking 3-5 years to come to any real fruition.

I think they have to spend some mone in January though as the team and the fans need a lift.

[OCD]

Lambert is going nowhere. Lerner and he have agreed on the strategy and I dont think he will be under pressure unless we get relegated. I think they genuinely see this as taking 3-5 years to come to any real fruition.

Quite right. To continue a pattern of changing the manager every one or two years meets the definition of insanity. Each manager would want to change the playing staff and you just end up in a downward spiral like we were in after O'Neill walked. For the first time in several years we're seeing positive progress - going from a team under serious threat of relegation to a mid-table team.

I think Lambert's probably the first manager in a long time who's understood the culture and history of the club.

[levico]

Lambert is going nowhere. Lerner and he have agreed on the strategy and I dont think he will be under pressure unless we get relegated. I think they genuinely see this as taking 3-5 years to come to any real fruition.

But if we get relegated it's too late then isn't it. I think this might be one of the most depressing statements I've heard recently, particularly if it's true.

[dave.woodhall]

Lambert is going nowhere. Lerner and he have agreed on the strategy and I dont think he will be under pressure unless we get relegated. I think they genuinely see this as taking 3-5 years to come to any real fruition.

Quite right. To continue a pattern of changing the manager every one or two years meets the definition of insanity. Each manager would want to change the playing staff and you just end up in a downward spiral like we were in after O'Neill walked. For the first time in several years we're seeing positive progress - going from a team under serious threat of relegation to a mid-table team.

I think Lambert's probably the first manager in a long time who's understood the culture and history of the club.

McLeish understood it, he was just not good enough. O'Neill did as well, after a fashion, but he still thought he was more important.

[ozzjim]

The trouble is, don't win one of the next 2, and then January looks very, very daunting. That is when the long term planning - and quite rightly that is what we are trying to do - will start to make a chairman sweat with the mad money on offer.

[eastie]

Lambert is going nowhere. Lerner and he have agreed on the strategy and I dont think he will be under pressure unless we get relegated. I think they genuinely see this as taking 3-5 years to come to any real fruition.

Quite right. To continue a pattern of changing the manager every one or two years meets the definition of insanity. Each manager would want to change the playing staff and you just end up in a downward spiral like we were in after O'Neill walked. For the first time in several years we're seeing positive progress - going from a team under serious threat of relegation to a mid-table team.

I think Lambert's probably the first manager in a long time who's understood the culture and history of the club.

I wouldn't get too carried away with this mid table talk just yet - bottom half is very tight and we could easily slip into the bottom 6 in the coming days - huge games ahead !

[eric woolban woolban]

Could be worse I guess.  Last night I dreamt David Platt returned in a coaching capacity.

[eastie]

Could be worse I guess.  Last night I dreamt David Platt returned in a coaching capacity.

Last night I dreamt of kylie platt and it was wonderful

[sirlordbaltimore]

Quite right. To continue a pattern of changing the manager every one or two years meets the definition of insanity. Each manager would want to change the playing staff and you just end up in a downward spiral like we were in after O'Neill walked

Did you feel the same way with McLeish or even McAllister if he'd been offered to job once Houllier 'quit' ?, or does this stick with the manager regardless of how bad things are stance only apply to Lambert ?

Because, not all of us can see any progress with what he's trying to do. Sadly i might add

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