Stoke City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[lovejoy]

Would we even be having this discussion if the ref or Lino had been competent enough to give the handball?

[eastie]

I don't think this is the time, Liam, to be honest.

Why?

I'm actually defending Paul Lambert and your players here!

Is it the results or the lack of entertainment which is a problem for some of you? I know my mate feels there is very little entertainment value.

Having seen some of your games recently, I think you're crying out for an experienced player in the middle of the park. A person for those younger players in the side to turn too when the chips are down as well as being able to use the ball effectively - Sylla and Delph, from what I've seen are forever playing in first gear - there comes a time when a side needs a steady eddie and an old head.

Your right , things could be worse - as our beloved neighbours are proving

[Monty]

If we sack Lambert, we bring in somebody who will change the squad, start again, etc.

We've got to stick with him, but please would someone tell him that 4-3-3 is bollocks.

Palace lost three nil today, they're playing us next, to quote David Coleman, 'what happened next?'. We're gonna fucking balls it up again. Zero points from three games is simply not good enough.

In Lerner terms, we're stuck with Lambert, so I just hope it works out...

He didn't play 4-3-3 today. He played 4-2-4. It was bollocks.

[dave.woodhall]

50 years ive been going to villa park i see one real problem the feckin owner tight fisted yankee twat came here with great intentions but words mean jack

What does £300 million mean then?

[SoccerHQ]

Any manager that witnesses a performance like that from his team is bound to be nervous. Especially since it was the second such effort in three weeks. Stoke were shocking too. There was only one moment of quality in the game that I remember, the cross for Stoke's winner.

The behaviour of a number of our players during the game was a disgrace. This is where Lambert really misses a couple of solid pros in the dressing room with him to sort some of this sh*te out. Clark continually getting booked for ridiculous lunging tackles, Herd, Lowton and Delph giving away multiple stupid freekicks. Weimann mouthing constantly at the ref. Once it starts in a team its infectious, far too many of our players were more interested in starting fights that passing the ball to a teammate.

I honestly think if Lambert was given money he still wouldnt address the crippling lack of leadership and experience in the squad. That for me is the worrying thing about keeping him on.

This concern me last week against Man. United when Baker tried to impress the crowd by trying to get himself sent off in the last 15 minutes. Irresponsible given we've lost Ron.

Plenty of poor challenges in the second half that on another day with another ref would've been a straight red for one of the players.

I don't think we're a dirty team but the players do seem to lose their heads, I couldn't see someone like Petrov accepting that if he was still playing and captain.

The current situation is frustrating but I think people are going OTT about relegation, we'll bob along in mid table all season, it will be one of those nothing seasons I'm afraid.

Will it get better than that soon? Well we simply need better quality of players in our first 11. Over to you Lerner, I genuinely think Lambert is doing the best he can apart from the quality of football he's got us playing.

[villan from luton]

50 years ive been going to villa park i see one real problem the feckin owner tight fisted yankee twat came here with great intentions but words mean jack

I think he came here with the right intentions, but had his fingers badly burned and has gone into hibernation. I actually feel sorry for the manager, though have to say his tactics are somewhat strange at times.

[supertom]

Would we even be having this discussion if the ref or Lino had been competent enough to give the handball?

Likewise we could say we probably wouldn't have scored if not handed an absolute gift by their fullback. We didn't look like scoring off our own back.

[Liam_Baggies]

Your right , things could be worse - as our beloved neighbours are proving

We needn't talk about Blues in this thread mate 

[eastie]

If we sack Lambert, we bring in somebody who will change the squad, start again, etc.

We've got to stick with him, but please would someone tell him that 4-3-3 is bollocks.

Palace lost three nil today, they're playing us next, to quote David Coleman, 'what happened next?'. We're gonna fucking balls it up again. Zero points from three games is simply not good enough.

In Lerner terms, we're stuck with Lambert, so I just hope it works out...

He didn't play 4-3-3 today. He played 4-2-4. It was bollocks.

I imagine gabby will replace tonev and kea for the suspended Westwood on Boxing Day but I can't see who else is on the bench that will make any difference really .

[Stu]

What we miss, what we absolutely miss, is a midfield. We do not have one. The one we have, to a man, is rubbish.

We're not quite in the shit yet; but if Palace get a win against us on Boxing Day, we are in the shit good and proper.

[avfcpg]

Starting to hate Saturdays and taping MOTD then watching it 3 days later when I have simmered down..

[supertom]

They had two tubby fullbacks, that pie fiend Adam and Walters, one of the most average players ever to appear in this league. I'm disappointed as a Villa fan we don't have the quality to put out to dominate a team like that. Not only that but they passed the ball better than us. Stoke...Stoke City...

[eastie]

What we miss, what we absolutely miss, is a midfield. We do not have one. The one we have, to a man, is rubbish.

We're not quite in the shit yet; but if Palace get a win against us on Boxing Day, we are in the shit good and proper.

We miss leadership too - someone who can organise and gee players up .

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Crap result. No idea how we played as haven't seen or heard anything apart from the score.

From my "seat":
I'd say we dominated the first half and should have gone in at least one up. The ref's decision re: Weimann was inexplicable. How many times do we see stonewall offences being "interpreted" by refs when no interpretation is necessary?. Stoke defender hauls down Villa attacker who is through on goal. Red card. But not this time!?
2nd half Stoke came out to have a go and we played wonderfully into their hands, following the script perfectly, Crouch heading down to a wa**er who scores pretty easily. They made a defensive error, Kozak nips in and scores. About 3 minutes later a cross from a totally unmarked player wide on the right leads to Guzan/Herd getting in each others' way, some apparent handball involved, and tall, lanky twat pops it into the unguarded net. Bollux!
We continue to hoof it long, getting absolutely nowhere and not attempting to play anything resembling football as we know it.
Bowery comes on to rescue us.
We all go home fu**in' depressed, wondering why, how, when?
The ref was weak.
Letting loadsa shit go, but booking players for picking their noses and flicking it at the stewards. Well, not nice that is it? Yellow card!
Hoist skinny little Villa winger into the crowd three times - fine. Man's game innit?
Pissed off.
Can you tell?
UTV


 

[supertom]

We've still not scored in the first half this season have we?