Stoke City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Jon Crofts]

We have a bunch of mediocre players playing mediocre football under a mediocre manager.

Mediocre?  They aren't that good.

[Villa-Villan]

Time Lidl Lambert and his cheap buys are removed from Villa Park but of course our chairman will lock himself away from the helm of the club where he should be.

Lerner's reluctance to be seen in public makes Howard Hughes look like a public extrovert .

I've seen some poor teams at Villa and this lot are right up there with the very worst. They try, but lack of quality which he brought in is now biting Lambert firmly on the arse.

[ozzjim]

Switch everything off now to do with football...until the next match.

That's what's shit. Villa make me hate football. I take no pleasure from watching good football, because of envy, and I take no pleasure from watching a team like Palace lose, because we're no better, and possibly worse.

Thats exactly how Villa make me feel, the last few years of Villa misery has affected how I feel about football in general, rarely watch any other football these days just cant be bothered, god I feel miserable.

I do tonight. I feel totally and utterly abject with it all.

As much as I can understand the Lambert bashing, he has a track record of decent attacking football, with creativity in his Norwich side from the likes of Hoolihan and Pilkington etc, and even with us last season.

I think his biggest mistake has been to not spend decent money on 2 new midfielders last summer, and 1 should have been taking back Gareth Barry. He would have come, and would have given leadership. The trouble in the last 3 games is that there has been no leader at all, and it is always like that without Vlaar.

Something has to give come January. Lerner needs to sit with Lambert, identify 2-3 players plus a loan maybe, and give him 15 million to sort out some better standard, with at least 2 players with genuine experience that can be leaders of men on the field.

[Fin Feds Dad]

After suffering that shite again , if anyone thinks that we are not bang in trouble  , then wake up.

Clueless manager - way worse than mcleish - yes - honestly .

If randy or Faulkner have got any idea on football then they need to get rid - we are sleepwalking toward the trap door .

[Jimbo]

There's only one team I'd like us to play next, but Crystal Palace are playing them.

[Summers]

That was atrocious.

[eric woolban woolban]

When does the tv money kick in?

[Mortimer's Bear]

Worst team in 20 years.

Not even close

Which was worse than that starting eleven today then?

[martin o`who??]

I think we're almost there. Just need to sort out the defence, midfield and attack.

Thats being optimistic, i think it goes even deeper than that!!..

[pbavfckuwait]

There always seems to be one team that falls into it, in the New Year and drops like a stone, I would love to see what the bookies odds are that we are that team. The problem being if you are going to give 20 mill in Jan to Lambert, is he going to spend it on 2 players of class, or 6 more duffers and what I cannot work out, if we are paying 6 players who are crap prem league wages, is that going to be so much less that 2 players of quality.

[mal]

All these injuries are showing his signings up for what they are. Crap players.

They key injuries have largely happened to his signings.

Mods please - ban this man. He keeps allowing facts to get in the way of the opinions. It just won't do.

[curiousorange]

Has there been any links of quality players coming in? At all?

[Dave Clark Five]

L...../. Out. Fill in the dots.

[paul_e]

Decent: Guzan, Vlaar, Benteke, Delph, Gabby, Okore
,
Meh: Clark, Lowton, Weimann, Albrighton, Kozak

Happy to never see in a Villa shirt again: Baker, Bennett, Luna, Bacuna, El Ahmadi, Tonev, Bowery, Helenius, Westwood, Herd, Sylla

To be fair to Lambert it's hard to imagine anyone achieving anything with that 'squad.' Lerner HAS to do something in January, another relegation scrap is unacceptable.

I'd replace 'decent' with 'generally good' and 'meh' with 'can be good'. I agree totally with which players go in which categories, though.

Having Helenius in the bottom category is pretty pathetic, he was signed with the expectation he'd take a while to settle and has barely had any time on the pitch, making any judgement on him is just silly.  Aside from that I'd split the bottom section into squad player and poor section and it'd be a pretty even split of the group between the 2.

[pbavfckuwait]

No curious, because he does not sign quality players, he has escaped critiscism because of Benteke the rest of his signings have been crap.