Stoke City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[ez]

All these injuries are showing his signings up for what they are. Crap players.

[barrysleftfoot]

 The standard of football , the ability on the ball, the quality of passing/crossing, is really quite shocking.As someone said earlier, its what i expect atm.Not sure where to go from here up until 2/3 games ago i bought into the idea of reducing the debt, getting rid of the expensive dross, and bringing in good young, hungry players, and developing a team, an exciting future, but its unravelling in front of us.Bowery is never a Prem player atm, and probably never will be.Albrighton, Westwood,Weimann, Clark, Baker, Lowton, are squad players at best, i'm not sure what Herd is.1 or 2 of these players should be in the 1st team, no more than that.

 We must be financially better off now, Randy has got to decide what he wants to do, because for me, unless we spend about £20m in Jan, then i think we are in trouble.

 Not sure if i want Lambert to remain here tbh, needs to convince me by the next 2 or 3 signings.

[cheadlevilla]

Lambert needs to go and be replaced by a lower league manager with a winning record.... Step forward Mr Gregory.     Nothing would surprise me these days.

[Monty]

All these injuries are showing his signings up for what they are. Crap players.

They key injuries have largely happened to his signings.

[ciggiesnbeer]

We were marginally the better side. Result was a coin flip really.

Thing that pisses me off is yet another christmas season loss.

[Monty]

We were marginally the better side. Result was a coin flip really.

Thing that pisses me off is yet another christmas season loss.

I don't think the word 'better' really applies to anything about that game.

[Steve kirk]

Switch everything off now to do with football...until the next match.

That's what's shit. Villa make me hate football. I take no pleasure from watching good football, because of envy, and I take no pleasure from watching a team like Palace lose, because we're no better, and possibly worse.

Thats exactly how Villa make me feel, the last few years of Villa misery has affected how I feel about football in general, rarely watch any other football these days just cant be bothered, god I feel miserable.

[brontebilly]

Any manager that witnesses a performance like that from his team is bound to be nervous. Especially since it was the second such effort in three weeks. Stoke were shocking too. There was only one moment of quality in the game that I remember, the cross for Stoke's winner.

The behaviour of a number of our players during the game was a disgrace. This is where Lambert really misses a couple of solid pros in the dressing room with him to sort some of this sh*te out. Clark continually getting booked for ridiculous lunging tackles, Herd, Lowton and Delph giving away multiple stupid freekicks. Weimann mouthing constantly at the ref. Once it starts in a team its infectious, far too many of our players were more interested in starting fights that passing the ball to a teammate.

I honestly think if Lambert was given money he still wouldnt address the crippling lack of leadership and experience in the squad. That for me is the worrying thing about keeping him on.

[sid cowans10]

Between my villa and England I have lost any interest I have had in football nowadays and it hurts

[ktvillan]

I'm trying to take consolation n the fact that this time last year we were even more shit than we are now.  It got better and we survived.  But then we had Benteke's goals.   I'm hoping things will pick up  again but fuck me I'm struggling to see what Lambert's grand plan is, or what any of his summer signings have added, whilst his first batch have gone backwards. 

We have relegation struggle written all over us, yet remain mid-table mainly due to the utter shitness of teams below us and two or three arguably fortunate wins.  I should think Lambert's in a spot of bother unless he gets 4 points from the next 6.

[caster troy]

Decent: Guzan, Vlaar, Benteke, Delph, Gabby, Okore
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Meh: Clark, Lowton, Weimann, Albrighton, Kozak

Happy to never see in a Villa shirt again: Baker, Bennett, Luna, Bacuna, El Ahmadi, Tonev, Bowery, Helenius, Westwood, Herd, Sylla

To be fair to Lambert it's hard to imagine anyone achieving anything with that 'squad.' Lerner HAS to do something in January, another relegation scrap is unacceptable.

[hilts_coolerking]

We have a bunch of mediocre players playing mediocre football under a mediocre manager.

[dicedlam]

Safest job in football, fucking disgraceful.

Yep. What manager would take over knowing he had about 55p to spend on players and wages?

He still wouldn't get the boot even if we went down.  All for the same reason mentioned above.

God. I now know how those Browns fans must of felt for all those years under Lerner.

[saunders_heroes]

I've said it many times, this our 4th consecutive season of substandard football where we've been involved in a relegation scrap. This hasn't happened at Villa in decades, yet Lerner gets away with it lock stock and barrel. No wonder he shits on us from such a height when there isn't the faintest flicker of protest.

[Monty]

Decent: Guzan, Vlaar, Benteke, Delph, Gabby, Okore
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Meh: Clark, Lowton, Weimann, Albrighton, Kozak

Happy to never see in a Villa shirt again: Baker, Bennett, Luna, Bacuna, El Ahmadi, Tonev, Bowery, Helenius, Westwood, Herd, Sylla

To be fair to Lambert it's hard to imagine anyone achieving anything with that 'squad.' Lerner HAS to do something in January, another relegation scrap is unacceptable.

I'd replace 'decent' with 'generally good' and 'meh' with 'can be good'. I agree totally with which players go in which categories, though.