Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

I think Lawreo's demotion move to MotD2 has shook him up a bit and he is taking more interest in the actual football, I thought he summed it up correctly.
I am going to look up verisimilitude and than respond again!

Can this Verisimilitude play full back?

[olaftab]

Lowton came from League One
Joe Bennett came from League One
Bowery came from League Two
Tonev came from looking OKish in Poland
Bacuna came from Groeningen's reserves

They were relegated from Polish Ekstraklasa last season!

[Louzie0]

I'm still a Lambert fan (just about) but we were shit again today. Sylla has been found out, Luna is shocking, Baker a last resort, Kea is shite, Westwood a passenger. Please don't get me started on 'The Beast.'

The thing is:

Sylla came from the French second division less than a year ago.
Westwood came from Crewe Alexandra, League One, a little over a year ago
Luna came from Sevilla reserves for a paltry amount of money
KEA came from being average in a league which is renowned for making players look better than they are
Lowton came from League One
Joe Bennett came from League One
Bowery came from League Two
Tonev came from looking OKish in Poland
Bacuna came from Groeningen's reserves

There's a recurrent theme here - they're all cheap purchases, they'll all be on comparatively low wages, and none of them have consistently played at the top level.

It's not like there are no signs telling us they're going to struggle. That's what happened last season, to those who were here, and that is what is happening this season.

It seems a foolhardly policy to push on with so many players who aren't experienced at this level of football, and we're now starting to see that it's really, really hard to play at the top level, and a lot of them plainly can't do it.

Some of them can't do it yet and might go on to do so, but it seems to me to be a tad dangerous to just assume that they just need time to bed in and then they're going to come good.

These are the players who have got the Villa to mid table. They are not the unmitigated crap that some would have them. They are bothered. They play that way. They are able to do much more and I just want to see it a bit more obviously and more effectively.
As do we all, I think.
That is down to the manager and the coaches as well. Oooh! Just get it together.

Verisimilitude. Now, if we could buy him in the window

[olaftab]

If you buy shit meat from Europe you get a shit meal - every time .

Not if you make a vindaloo out of it!

[olaftab]

I think Lawreo's demotion move to MotD2 has shook him up a bit and he is taking more interest in the actual football, I thought he summed it up correctly.
I am going to look up verisimilitude and than respond again!

Can this Verisimilitude play full back?

Not sure but he sounds  Belgian. Similar to Vertonghen and Vermaelen!

[Fin Feds Dad]

But the result would still be .........

[TonyD]

I think Lawro's demotion move to MotD2 has shook him up a bit and he is taking more interest in the actual football, I thought he summed it up correctly.
I am going to look up verisimilitude and than respond again!

I agree he actually said it as it is tonight.  Today was awful.  We should all get three points for going today.  The players should get a bath of custard with a topping of the shite from the tat of the German market crap.

[Louzie0]

3 points for going today.

We could club together and get a vat of custard. Hold an H&VERS  convention in it.

[Pat McMahon]

Fair and accurate dissection of our defensive play today by Mills and Lawro on MOTD2.

Sadly I have to agree with you Aftab.

[Louzie0]

Fair and accurate dissection of our defensive play today by Mills and Lawro on MOTD2.

Sadly I have to agree with you Aftab.

No, really.
How is Lawro suddenly believable this week?
He never has been, before.
I know it wasn't the best Villa performance but I find this acceptance of Lawro's assessment worrying. I hope it is momentary.

[bertlambshank]

He was spot on for a change.

[TonyD]

3 points for going today.

We could club together and get a vat of custard. Hold an H&VERS  convention in it.

Lol.

[Louzie0]

He was spot on for a change.

Et tu, Bert?

[john2710]

It's going to take a good level of investment over 3 years to turn us into anything like a premiership club & I see no sign of that coming.

The next 3-4 weeks are crucial, we might pick up a few points but if we do I'm not being fooled by it. We could just as easily pick up none. People talk about us being a mid table club or that we are in transition, bollocks. Lambert is doing what he can with the instructions to cut the wages & the limited money he's been given. 

Mr Lerner, we are heading one way only unless we buy some quality. FFS do something before the life is sucked out of our club.

[tomd2103]

I'm still a Lambert fan (just about) but we were shit again today. Sylla has been found out, Luna is shocking, Baker a last resort, Kea is shite, Westwood a passenger. Please don't get me started on 'The Beast.'

The thing is:

Sylla came from the French second division less than a year ago.
Westwood came from Crewe Alexandra, League One, a little over a year ago
Luna came from Sevilla reserves for a paltry amount of money
KEA came from being average in a league which is renowned for making players look better than they are
Lowton came from League One
Joe Bennett came from League One
Bowery came from League Two
Tonev came from looking OKish in Poland
Bacuna came from Groeningen's reserves

There's a recurrent theme here - they're all cheap purchases, they'll all be on comparatively low wages, and none of them have consistently played at the top level.

There are nine names there.  Surely the combined fees and wages spent on those nine would have been better used bringing in three more established players?