We go again

[usav]

That's all very well saying on step forward and two steps back, if you think the Southampton game was a step forward.   I happen to think it wasn't.   It was in terms of the result, but in terms of the performance it was every bit as bad as Fulham.   

We will get fluke results like Southampton because we do have some quality players in the team that can do things like that, but it doesn't mean we have progressed, far from it.   We are playing  players out of position, a centre forward woefully out of form, our best defender missing and a general lack of tactical astuteness - other than the pass to Luna for the third goal at Arsenal, can anyone tell me what Weimann has added to the team this year?   Yet we still stick to that formation.  Time to try something else, Paul.

Well, the winner against Man City springs to mind.

True, but at the same time that was gift-wrapped for him.  Are you going to argue that he's been good value this season?  I can't see how anyone could.

[pauliewalnuts]

By the standards Weimann set himself last season, he has been very poor so far.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Just a bit of fun - before anyone has a go. I've done a quick press search to see how many times Lambert says "we go again". Hundreds of results but I could only be arsed to copy and paste a handful:

Yesterday - Lambert said: 'I don't think we did enough to win the game. 'If you lose any game you're always disappointed but you pick yourself up and go again.'

December 2 - "Hopefully we won't have too many knocks. We will go again on Wednesday at Southampton and then we have another game at Fulham on Sunday."

November 25 -  Lambert would love a repeat of Benteke's Hawthorns special last time around And he added: "It was just a world-class goal. What he has done is set himself an extremely high standard.He has to go again now."

September 29 - "You can't live on your past glories, that's important. You don't dwell. You enjoy, yes. But you go into work and you're ready to go again."

September 23 - Lambert said. "I can understand their frustration. I had three great years here but it doesn't seem like that. That's the way a lot of people will portray it. I know what happened. That's football. You pick yourself up and go again. My Job now is for Aston Villa."

July 4 – “ You have to go again then again and every year you have to step up to the plate and this year will be no differen”.

May 13 -  “Without Christian, we still looked really good, and you’ve got to just pick yourself up and go again."

May 4th - And he concluded, more in hope than confident expectation: ‘Two games left, we dust ourselves down and go again.'.

[not3bad]

How long do people think he has before the crowd start to turn on him?

If we're still mid table by the end of the season then he'll be fine.  If we're still mid table and playing in the same haphazard way this time next year then, yes, the fans will be getting restless.

[eastie]

A top 12 finish will keep most off his back , a bottom 6 finish and quite a few may turn , but he really needs to get the team playing a better style of football at home .

[Bad English]

"Well, I'm glad you asked me that question; all I can say is we picked ourselves up and we were woeful again"

[supertom]

"Well, I'm glad you asked me that question; all I can say is we picked ourselves up and we were woeful again"

We go again.

[Toronto Villa]

I really don't care about the words he uses ultimately. It would be refreshing to hear something more candid or just different. Ultimately if the team is performing then manager or player speak becomes white noise.

[sirlordbaltimore]

How long do people think he has before the crowd start to turn on him?

If we're still mid table by the end of the season then he'll be fine.  If we're still mid table and playing in the same haphazard way this time next year then, yes, the fans will be getting restless.

well the booing has already started hasn't it?, i can't pretend i'm surprised either.

[class_of_82]

So yet again it was lamberts fault, yea we looked tired and lethargic and never got going but was it lamberts fault that we had a terrible penalty decision against us and it was lamberts fault that guzan never stayed on his line for sidwells goal.

[Toronto Villa]

So yet again it was lamberts fault, yea we looked tired and lethargic and never got going but was it lamberts fault that we had a terrible penalty decision against us and it was lamberts fault that guzan never stayed on his line for sidwells goal.

he has some responsibility though to how we play and whether we learn from our mistakes though. Yes, the players are the ones who are passing the ball and creating chances but the manager is paid to ensure that we improve in all aspects of the game. When it goes well he should be commended and when it doesn't he has to be accountable. I don't think that is too much to ask.

[walsall villain]

How long do people think he has before the crowd start to turn on him?

If we're still mid table by the end of the season then he'll be fine.  If we're still mid table and playing in the same haphazard way this time next year then, yes, the fans will be getting restless.

well the booing has already started hasn't it?, i can't pretend i'm surprised either.

Mind you there aren't many premiership teams who haven't been booed off at some point already this season, it's what fans do these days.

[eastie]

So yet again it was lamberts fault, yea we looked tired and lethargic and never got going but was it lamberts fault that we had a terrible penalty decision against us and it was lamberts fault that guzan never stayed on his line for sidwells goal.

he has some responsibility though to how we play and whether we learn from our mistakes though. Yes, the players are the ones who are passing the ball and creating chances but the manager is paid to ensure that we improve in all aspects of the game. When it goes well he should be commended and when it doesn't he has to be accountable. I don't think that is too much to ask.

Agreed , he's also responsible for team selection and I'm not sure bacuna should have been at right back or Weimann in the starting line up either.

[class_of_82]

Take your point Toronto villa but there was no slagging him after the WBA game or the man city game or saints away was there but a lethargic poor performance at Fulham and it's all lamberts fault. Also put post on b4 for you, do you live in west hill Toronto if so you could be my cousin warren ? If not as I said b4 we are all part of the villa family.

[walsall villain]

So yet again it was lamberts fault, yea we looked tired and lethargic and never got going but was it lamberts fault that we had a terrible penalty decision against us and it was lamberts fault that guzan never stayed on his line for sidwells goal.

he has some responsibility though to how we play and whether we learn from our mistakes though. Yes, the players are the ones who are passing the ball and creating chances but the manager is paid to ensure that we improve in all aspects of the game. When it goes well he should be commended and when it doesn't he has to be accountable. I don't think that is too much to ask.

Agreed , he's also responsible for team selection and I'm not sure bacuna should have been at right back or Weimann in the starting line up either.

I would imagine that lambert like many of us was very optimistic at the start of the season although he never says much. He had got Weimann and Benteke to re-sign and had found what we thought were very promising youngsters in Lowton and Westwood. All four aren't doing it (Lowton hardly had a chance yet). Weimann worries me the most, his form has left him. I just hope that Lambert is proactive and gets a couple in next month and doesn't just chance it that the four mentioned regain form.