Smoke bombs & flares

[lennythekad]

West Midlands Police have given West Bromwich Albion supporters special dispensation to use yacht flares at their home games. A spokesman said that they should only be used when people are in distress, they've hit the rocks and are in danger of going down and sinking without a trace.

Brilliant.

may I steal this please ? cheers Mrs Slag

Me too, please Hilda?.

[Dave Clark Five]

From the OS:
Use of Pyrotechnics

There has, of late, been a noticeable rise in the number of fans of all teams bringing flares and smoke devices (pyrotechnics) to football matches.

These can be dangerous and offensive to fellow supporters and also a criminal offence.

Their use is deplored by all within the game including the Premier League and the Football Supporters Federation.

Any person found either in or trying to enter a football stadium with any form of pyrotechnic will be arrested, will face criminal charges and will be banned either by a court or this club from attending football matches.

At all times, please remember that your support of your club should never discredit that club.

[bruisedshins]

A smoke bomb isn’t actually alight though is it? Isn’t it just expending the gas contained within the canister?

I don’t think comparisons with the Bradford fire are relevant, as I recall hearing that parts of the Telegraph and Argus newspaper from 1968 had been found after and I cannot think of a similar ground in the top flight beyond Everton where there is anything remotely combustible.

Coming from a safety critical environment as I do, you try to close down opportunities for anything unsafe to happen. In the case of smoke bombs and flares, no consideration would be given to differentiate between smoke bombs and flares. They both have the ability to cause harm.

Many activities have the ability to cause harm but are tolerated, surely you have to measure the extent of the risk? Playing contact sport carries a higher degree of risk than non toxic smoke being expelled from a canister.

Why should the Police spend time determining if it is a smoke bomb or a flare? Besides, the smoke can be harmful and has been proved to be as such.

I doubt some of the police down Villa have the mental faculties to make such a basic assessment.

The smoke can be harmful if inhaled by people with respiratory problems, the best idea would be to have a section of grounds where people who want to use smokes can do so. Secondary smoke from cigarettes is said to cause cancer, we have set areas for people to smoke at Villa Park, granted smoke travels but the smoke contained in smoke bombs is non-toxic, unlike those in cigarettes, i'd imagine that any negative affect to those who may be susceptible to it only really applies if you're stood directly next to a smoke that goes off.

[PeterWithesShin]

As far as I know there is one designated smoking area. Upper Holte on the outside balcony. Everyone out there chooses to be out with the smokers. Even if there was a designated smoke bomb area it will affect people not in that area.

[Dave Clark Five]

I see the Club have issued a letter on the subject with the Stoke tickets.

[Pat McMahon]

I guess the stewards down the Villa wouldn't want to have us recreate the Aris Thessaloniki welcome for Boca Juniors then...Things start to hot up on 50 seconds when the teams come out.

[Somniloquism]

A smoke bomb isn’t actually alight though is it? Isn’t it just expending the gas contained within the canister?

I don’t think comparisons with the Bradford fire are relevant, as I recall hearing that parts of the Telegraph and Argus newspaper from 1968 had been found after and I cannot think of a similar ground in the top flight beyond Everton where there is anything remotely combustible.

Coming from a safety critical environment as I do, you try to close down opportunities for anything unsafe to happen. In the case of smoke bombs and flares, no consideration would be given to differentiate between smoke bombs and flares. They both have the ability to cause harm.

Many activities have the ability to cause harm but are tolerated, surely you have to measure the extent of the risk? Playing contact sport carries a higher degree of risk than non toxic smoke being expelled from a canister.

Why should the Police spend time determining if it is a smoke bomb or a flare? Besides, the smoke can be harmful and has been proved to be as such.

I doubt some of the police down Villa have the mental faculties to make such a basic assessment.

The smoke can be harmful if inhaled by people with respiratory problems, the best idea would be to have a section of grounds where people who want to use smokes can do so. Secondary smoke from cigarettes is said to cause cancer, we have set areas for people to smoke at Villa Park, granted smoke travels but the smoke contained in smoke bombs is non-toxic, unlike those in cigarettes, i'd imagine that any negative affect to those who may be susceptible to it only really applies if you're stood directly next to a smoke that goes off.

I know the football is bad at Villa Park, but i'm surprised you want an area where you can keep on setting off smoke bombs so you don't have to see the pitch.

[danlanza]

I guess the stewards down the Villa wouldn't want to have us recreate the Aris Thessaloniki welcome for Boca Juniors then...Things start to hot up on 50 seconds when the teams come out.

Now that is some atmosphere, never to be re-created in a British stadium.
I am sure i spotted Danny Dyer hiding in a corner shitting himself.

[Dave Clark Five]

I guess the stewards down the Villa wouldn't want to have us recreate the Aris Thessaloniki welcome for Boca Juniors then...Things start to hot up on 50 seconds when the teams come out.

Now that is some atmosphere, never to be re-created in a British stadium.
I am sure i spotted Danny Dyer hiding in a corner shitting himself.

Imagine it at Villa Park. Mad firework (pyro) display for 5 minutes then near silence for the rest of the game.

[bruisedshins]

A smoke bomb isn’t actually alight though is it? Isn’t it just expending the gas contained within the canister?

I don’t think comparisons with the Bradford fire are relevant, as I recall hearing that parts of the Telegraph and Argus newspaper from 1968 had been found after and I cannot think of a similar ground in the top flight beyond Everton where there is anything remotely combustible.

Coming from a safety critical environment as I do, you try to close down opportunities for anything unsafe to happen. In the case of smoke bombs and flares, no consideration would be given to differentiate between smoke bombs and flares. They both have the ability to cause harm.

Many activities have the ability to cause harm but are tolerated, surely you have to measure the extent of the risk? Playing contact sport carries a higher degree of risk than non toxic smoke being expelled from a canister.

Why should the Police spend time determining if it is a smoke bomb or a flare? Besides, the smoke can be harmful and has been proved to be as such.

I doubt some of the police down Villa have the mental faculties to make such a basic assessment.

The smoke can be harmful if inhaled by people with respiratory problems, the best idea would be to have a section of grounds where people who want to use smokes can do so. Secondary smoke from cigarettes is said to cause cancer, we have set areas for people to smoke at Villa Park, granted smoke travels but the smoke contained in smoke bombs is non-toxic, unlike those in cigarettes, i'd imagine that any negative affect to those who may be susceptible to it only really applies if you're stood directly next to a smoke that goes off.

I know the football is bad at Villa Park, but i'm surprised you want an area where you can keep on setting off smoke bombs so you don't have to see the pitch.

I've never known a pyro display go on all game, they tend to be at the start of games before the game kicks off or when a goal is scored, I think it would cost far too much money to provide a smokescreen that covers a full 90 minutes of sideways passing. Sorry for the incovenience 

[Dio1874]

Never been a fan of flares always thought they were a bit of a fashion disaster,
Am still lead to believe that they're still der-rigure in Chesterfield though

[dcdavecollett]

Hey, don't you knock Chezz Vegas, mate!

[Ad@m]

Well done to whichever bellends lit at least two smoke bombs at Stoke today and then just dropped them.

I nearly choked to death.

[Somniloquism]

Well done to whichever bellends lit at least two smoke bombs at Stoke today and then just dropped them.

I nearly choked to death.

Are you sure they were smoke bombs because according to our resident expert, they are fine to use and cause no issues at all if they are harmless smoke bombs.

[Dave Clark Five]

Well done to whichever bellends lit at least two smoke bombs at Stoke today and then just dropped them.

I nearly choked to death.

Are you sure they were smoke bombs because according to our resident expert, they are fine to use and cause no issues at all if they are harmless smoke bombs.

Maybe the club should start handing the fucking things out as we walk into the ground.