Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[rob_bridge]

Well 2 hours of my life I can never get back.

Dire overall though Clark and Gabby did well. Benteke was shite.

Anyway thanks to Legion for H&V back issues. Nice to meet you and look more or less howcI thought you would.

Hope the beer in German market is better.

[brontebilly]

While Benteke was gash, especially second half, I was very surprised at the vitriol aimed at from a number of fans in the Lower North.

it was richly deserved imo

players not trying is unacceptable

[Dave Clark Five]

Total dross. Boring, lacking creativity, displaying little skill. Woeful.

[Stu]

Lambert played pretty much our best team. Poyet set up to frustrate and shut up shop.

Yeah it sucks we couldnt unlock them but these things happen.

2 pts dropped but hats off to Sunderland for grinding out a point.

I like your style

[eastie]

The stat that our passing accuracy is the worst in the league along with palace says a lot about this team .

[rob_bridge]

While Benteke was gash, especially second half, I was very surprised at the vitriol aimed at from a number of fans in the Lower North.

it was richly deserved imo

players not trying is unacceptable

He should have been taken off much earlier.

[pooligan]

Beats me how Lambert is still the manager ,it really does. At any other club he would have been sacked for the home performances alone .I say it nearly every week ,he is clueless .

[eastie]

33,036 attendance today - gates are going to drop further with this shocking brand of football.

[supertom]

The stat that our passing accuracy is the worst in the league along with palace says a lot about this team .

Even the simplest passes appear beyond us at times. Westwood is turning into Bannan too. He'll pull off a good Hollywood pass (yes, yes! the term is not dead!) but from then on every long pass is just telegraphed. He makes it so obvious what he's doing too.
That said at least he can get the five yard passes on target, which is more than can be said about the rest. KEA was anonymous too.

[Brian Taylor]

Aimless, clueless, feckless, classless and useless. This was sub-McLeish.

I really don't see the big picture. We lack quality and Lambert is tactically clueless. The players are well short on ability and ideas. We work hard, we run a lot and it's getting some results, with no small amount of luck along the way. But what happens when the luck runs out and the results start getting worse?
I'm getting fed up with it to be honest. We'll probably finish comfortably safe from the drop zone this season, but with what ambition? With how much quality? We play wretched football. There's not an ounce of consideration or composure.
Being defensively more resolute this season is good, but much like McLeish's season, if we lose 2-3 key players throughout the team, we could well falter. We can't afford to lose Vlaar or Clark, because then the solidity is gone.
If Benteke continues to struggle and look like he couldn't give a toss, then we'll struggle to score.

We're awful at home. We grind out results away I suppose, but with no style whatsoever.

I've lost faith in Lamberts ability to put us in the right direction. His goal, which he made clear, was to have us playing football in the right way. Passing, movement, on the deck. That's nowhere near close. He's not even signed the right players to do that because right through our side we've got players with substandard ball control and passing ability.

As for today. Vlaar, Clark and Gabby did okay. Everyone else was poor.

Post of the season for me - well said!

Agree, shite..but got a point..what's the point?

[eastie]

Beats me how Lambert is still the manager ,it really does. At any other club he would have been sacked for the home performances alone .I say it nearly every week ,he is clueless .

I think the honeymoon is over - he is very lucky he followed Mcleish and has been given so much time but I sense fans are beginning to lose faith in him at some pace now.

[kippaxvilla2]

Lambert won't be sacked whilst he keeps us in the Division.  This is now the ambition of the club.  I don't entirely blame Lambert given that it was revealed in midweek that a lot of the players he bought in cost a lot less than was advertised - which was already horrendously low by Premier League standards. Villa want to buck the trend of the entire rest of the division by going with young, hungry players - unfortunately the quality just isn't there.

[Irish villain]

Everton have been harder pressed for cash than us over the past decade but they look outside bets for the Champion's League places because they invested properly and had a coherent strategy to management etc.

We have been a feckin shambles. In fact, Everton post Moyes did exactly what we should have done. Got in an ambitious manager and backed him. I still trace our problems to the dithering of Randy after MON went. The right appointment there and we could have got to where MON was unable to take us. Since that our finances have gone to pot because of bad business/bad league positioning.

[Fin Feds Dad]

The worst 90 minutes of 'football' I have endured for a long long time. Woeful European bargain basement additions in the summer + clueless managerial tactics = that shower of shite . Awful.

[SoccerHQ]

Garbage.