Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[pauliewalnuts]

The almost total lack of composure in possession is very worrying.

I also wonder what he sees in Luna, because what I see is a clown way out of his depth.

yeah luna is a charlatan of a footballer. No heart, brain, strength or positional sense

Positionally, he is terrifying. Sadly, Bennett is no better. I have no idea what he saw in either of them.

[Goldie.7]

People losing faith a third of the way into the second season shows how predictably fickle it all is.

Not defending the display, but if those of you who have lost faith can suggest a better replacement in the circumstances I would love to hear it.

Yawn.

[JUAN PABLO]

there must be managers out there like the Soton manager . These scot managers do
seem to bring me down

[pauliewalnuts]

If Benteke is indeed not up for it, he needs to be dropped.

[supertom]

Sending out a group of players who can't string 5 passes together and consistently balls up even the simplest 5 yard passes is not good enough at this level. You can blame the players, but the person who's head is first on the chopping block is the manager, and this is mostly his team now too.
If one of our players was on Mastermind they'd strike out with 0 points. For one they'd be clueless and wouldn't know the answer, and for another they wouldn't be able to move on because they can't pass.

I think our next managerial appointment needs to be ballsy. We need someone who's tactically astute and can get the side passing the ball. Randy will have to fork out to attract a good coach, possibly from abroad. I don't think it's time to sack Lambert by any means, but a whole season of this, even if we're safe at the end, isn't good enough.

[PeterWithesShin]

While Benteke was gash, especially second half, I was very surprised at the vitriol aimed at from a number of fans in the Lower North.

[JUAN PABLO]

we seemed lacklustre as well , we didnt bother closing down , we just seemed limp.  No passion and no cutting edge again but we have known this for a long time.

[Irish villain]

People saying we are mid-table should look at the table. We are three points ahead of Cardiff who are 17th. This could very easily go badly wrong, especially if we can't beat the likes of Sunderland at home.

[Stu]

They were second best the entire match in what was probably the worst performance from a Villa team under Lambert.

Oh come on, remember Chelsea away and Spurs and Wigan at home last season? I'd take this game over those three travesties any time.

It was rubbish, yes, we're still a team in transition as well; I don't think Lambert knows his best formation and I don't think he's honest about our style of football. However, we are still building a team IMO; I'd like to think this is not the finished article.

[brontebilly]

The almost total lack of composure in possession is very worrying.

I also wonder what he sees in Luna, because what I see is a clown way out of his depth.

yeah luna is a charlatan of a footballer. No heart, brain, strength or positional sense

Positionally, he is terrifying. Sadly, Bennett is no better. I have no idea what he saw in either of them.

and the alternative is moving to Clark to left back and bringing Baker in....

at least baker can physically compete and does give his all. nowhere near good enough either mind

if either clark or vlaar got injured I think we would start conceding goals to the level of last season

[steamer]

We have had tough times and crap results with many managers in the last 15 years.
I struggle to remain positive, and really feel for the fans that go to home games week in and week out without reward.
What happened to winning at home?
If this an experiment when do we see some Fizz and reaction ?
On the other hand we can not just keep having new management teams.
But, if we fuck up and do not buy experienced players who can offer more in Jan I despair.
Is it a plan that the next guy comes in with no liability in overpaid players etc ?

For me Lambert has until this time next year or what was the point of finishing 6th so many times and agreeing it was not good enough.

[supertom]

The almost total lack of composure in possession is very worrying.

I also wonder what he sees in Luna, because what I see is a clown way out of his depth.

yeah luna is a charlatan of a footballer. No heart, brain, strength or positional sense

Positionally, he is terrifying. Sadly, Bennett is no better. I have no idea what he saw in either of them.

For a Spaniard he's shocking on the ball too. Likewise Bacuna on the other-side is rapidly appearing to be Hollands answer to Reo-Coker, with the addition of the free-kick ability of Ronaldo. But we can't have one of our main tactics be to win freekicks on the edge of the opponents box.

[Irish villain]

we seemed lacklustre as well , we didnt bother closing down , we just seemed limp.  No passion and no cutting edge again but we have known this for a long time.

That's what I was getting at earlier. I thought the strategy was to buy youthful,hungry players who are full of determination. I haven't seen that from us for the past few games. We only woke up after the triple substitution at Baggies.

 

[ciggiesnbeer]

Lambert played pretty much our best team. Poyet set up to frustrate and shut up shop.

Yeah it sucks we couldnt unlock them but these things happen.

2 pts dropped but hats off to Sunderland for grinding out a point.

[eastie]

People losing faith a third of the way into the second season shows how predictably fickle it all is.

Not defending the display, but if those of you who have lost faith can suggest a better replacement in the circumstances I would love to hear it.

I haven't lost faith in him yet, but why must those who have done come up with a better man to replace him?

There are plenty of people saying they've lost faith but almost nobody saying we should sack him.

And that stuff about fickle is cliched nonsense, too. It's not like we started with a clean slate. Last season was abysmal too.

I still gave faith in him but to suggest those who feel otherwise are fickle or that there aren't reasons to do so strikes me as burying your head in the sand.

Well said paulie.