Aston Villa v Sunderland Post-Match Thread

[supertom]

Aimless, clueless, feckless, classless and useless. This was sub-McLeish.

I really don't see the big picture. We lack quality and Lambert is tactically clueless. The players are well short on ability and ideas. We work hard, we run a lot and it's getting some results, with no small amount of luck along the way. But what happens when the luck runs out and the results start getting worse?
I'm getting fed up with it to be honest. We'll probably finish comfortably safe from the drop zone this season, but with what ambition? With how much quality? We play wretched football. There's not an ounce of consideration or composure.
Being defensively more resolute this season is good, but much like McLeish's season, if we lose 2-3 key players throughout the team, we could well falter. We can't afford to lose Vlaar or Clark, because then the solidity is gone.
If Benteke continues to struggle and look like he couldn't give a toss, then we'll struggle to score.

We're awful at home. We grind out results away I suppose, but with no style whatsoever.

I've lost faith in Lamberts ability to put us in the right direction. His goal, which he made clear, was to have us playing football in the right way. Passing, movement, on the deck. That's nowhere near close. He's not even signed the right players to do that because right through our side we've got players with substandard ball control and passing ability.

As for today. Vlaar, Clark and Gabby did okay. Everyone else was poor.

[ez]

Some draws feel like wins and some feel like defeats. That feels like a defeat.

[VinnieChase84]

We should have been 1-0 down at halftime except for the miss of the season. Absolute garbage. So so tired of this shit winding me up. As others have said, of lambert resigned I would not give a shit. The man has a shit plan A and that's it. If it doesn't work then there is zero room for alteration

[PeterWithesShin]

Christ it was cold in the second half. Benteke was woeful second half. Draw fair result. Too cold to type more

[Irish villain]

Lambert has stopped me wanting to go. Today was my first Saturday I could make it for a while but I thought fuck it, we are shit at home anyway, not worth the money and effort. Im so glad I didn't. Gutted for my cousin who travelled up from Plymouth

We have been fucking awful at home since Martin O'Neill was here in all fairness.

Lambert has made some mistakes but slaughtering him alone for the home form is not really a true picture.

He has had two full pre-seasons, the FULL backing of the fans despite some of the worst performances that I have ever seen from villa and money to spend and he is still serving up turgid, impotent, football, at home against a relegation candidate a third of the way into his second season. Garbage.

[Mister E]

Well, I'm glad I missed this one.
Not impressed, but reports of recent Blunderland performances suggest they are more resilient than under the Fascist.

[eastie]

Aimless, clueless, feckless, classless and useless. This was sub-McLeish.

I really don't see the big picture. We lack quality and Lambert is tactically clueless. The players are well short on ability and ideas. We work hard, we run a lot and it's getting some results, with no small amount of luck along the way. But what happens when the luck runs out and the results start getting worse?
I'm getting fed up with it to be honest. We'll probably finish comfortably safe from the drop zone this season, but with what ambition? With how much quality? We play wretched football. There's not an ounce of consideration or composure.
Being defensively more resolute this season is good, but much like McLeish's season, if we lose 2-3 key players throughout the team, we could well falter. We can't afford to lose Vlaar or Clark, because then the solidity is gone.
If Benteke continues to struggle and look like he couldn't give a toss, then we'll struggle to score.

We're awful at home. We grind out results away I suppose, but with no style whatsoever.

I've lost faith in Lamberts ability to put us in the right direction. His goal, which he made clear, was to have us playing football in the right way. Passing, movement, on the deck. That's nowhere near close. He's not even signed the right players to do that because right through our side we've got players with substandard ball control and passing ability.

As for today. Vlaar, Clark and Gabby did okay. Everyone else was poor.

Post of the season for me - well said!

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Poor result and sounded like a woeful performance, but a clean sheet and another point.

The day we start celebrating a point and a clean sheet against a team that hasn't scored away since August will be a very sad day indeed.

[Mazrim]

I really am struggling to see the plan. It really is tedious. We ended last season so well and started this season with some gusto but I don't see it now. Off the field we are treading water and living off our financial stomach acid and on the field it's just boring. Especially at home.

[pauliewalnuts]

The almost total lack of composure in possession is very worrying.

I also wonder what he sees in Luna, because what I see is a clown way out of his depth.

[mr woo]

Turgid stuff.

So many of our side have an atrocious first touch it's untrue. That, coupled with a scattering of truly half assed performances meant once again coming away from Villa Park fed up and underwhelmed.

The sad part is, its all starting to get incredibly, incredibly predictable.

[Deano's Mullet]

Formation doesn't work at home! We can see it, why cant he? Because we're keeping clean sheets now against teams with mediocre attacks Lambert seems to think that's progress but its come at the expense of our attack at the other end. Midfield creativity seriously lacking and Weimann/Agbonlahor are expected to create their own chances. From all accounts Benteke anonymous today, how long before he decides he wants out? Amazingly though, we're tenth.

[brontebilly]

complete and utter shit yet again. our goal led a charmed life today and sunderland were certainly the better side.

our forwards were woeful, everyone wanted the golden trio reinstated for the game and got their wish. gabby ran around a bit but only in areas that werent going to hurt the opposition. playing for the galleries rather than offering a threat. same old same old. reckon weimann's career will fizzle out ala Albrighton. Benteke's lack of effort today was a new low for the shirt. Yorke at Everton type behaviour.

positives .....thought westwood was decent. Clark was too apart from getting beaten in the air for Borini's header

not sure how we ended up with a clean sheet, luck really. both full backs were shite.

guzan 6
bacuna 4
vlaar 5
clark 6
luna 5
kea 5
westwood 7
delph 6
weimann 5
benteke 2
gabby 5

tonev - just absolutely hopeless
albrighton - flashed one nice cross in but gabby and benteke were both on their heels

lambert 5 - the selection everyone wanted but team was horribly flat today. tried to change it to 442 but gabby started playing in midfield then bizarrely. The change that brought us the win against Cardiff should surely have been replicated again today. Need to get Lowton back in for sure.

In summary, we are complete fucking muck.

[hilts_coolerking]

Draw fair result.

Can't agree with that PWS.  We were lucky to get away with a point.

[eric woolban woolban]

We're in the top half. Every cloud!