Are we a boring outfit?

[Damo70]

At least we've answered 4 questions so far this season.

Can we stop conceding in almost every single game? Yes
Can we stop looking like a joke at Corners? Yes
Can we come back from losing positions? Yes
Can we survive when Benteke is off form or injured? Yes

Absolutely. Throw into the equation the fact that Westwood, Weimann and Benteke's form will improve sooner rather than later.

[SoccerHQ]

We are the definition of a mid table team really.

A team that has a star player and a couple who are just below that but are good to watch when on form. And a lot of other middling players.

We'll pick up enough points from teams around and below us to be comfortable of any relegation struggle like they last few weeks, we'll pick up the odd enjoyable and unexpected win against a title contender but when there's an opportunity to kick on up the table we won't take advantage like today.

I suppose at least it's not a relegation battle this time but still I just want a bit more excitement from these home games.

[Irish villain]

Until we get ourselves to 40 points I won't be taking anything for granted. If we accumulate points at the rate we are going we should be fine, but you just never know when we might go on a bad run. We are really struggling to score which is a major worry.

[Fin Feds Dad]

Yes

[Toronto Villa]

We are the very definition of becoming Everton. We will have ridiculously bland performances mixed in with some great and shit ones. In time we'll be solid enough rarely to worry about going down or consistently challenging for much. Then once in a blue moon we'll surprise everyone and win something or at least come close just to remind the fans that we are worth following and pinning our hopes to.

[PeterWithesShin]

Sometimes we are. Sometimes we aren't. Same as we have been for the 35+ years I've been going.

[SoccerHQ]

What I'm holding onto is that a year ago I think we'd just drawn 0-0 at home to Stoke and again were struggling to score goals but were picking up points on a decent basis.

And yet things clicked from January onwards, at least going forward. Hopefully there won't be a horrendous xmas period this time (although looking at the fixtures mid of Jan when we play Arsenal at home followed by the Merseyside two away doesn't look promising) and we're starting from a higher base than last year.

[Pat McMahon]

We are the very definition of becoming Everton. We will have ridiculously bland performances mixed in with some great and shit ones. In time we'll be solid enough rarely to worry about going down or consistently challenging for much. Then once in a blue moon we'll surprise everyone and win something or at least come close just to remind the fans that we are worth following and pinning our hopes to.

TV, I think Everton have been consistently sniffing around 6th place for a decade so are very different to us.

I agree they have not been a scintillating team to watch for most of that time but they make life difficult for opponents and have made Goodison a hard place to get a result. No idea if they were dreary in Moyes' first couple of seasons though....

[aj2k77]

Everton has lost 1 in 30 at home. We've probably had 1 good performance in 30 at home.

[SoccerHQ]

Everton started with 3 underwhelming draws but I thought they had a superb last day of the transfer window that has significantly improved them.....McCarthy and Barry coming in to replace Fellani and picking up Lukaku as David Moyes teams always lacked a consistant goalscorer.

Two season long loans in there aswell for people who are sniffy about them.

[olaftab]

There were people on here who were going mental about lack of clean sheets. Well we have plenty of those now  however clean sheets at this moment in development of our team come at a cost. So please  complain if you must but there we are!

[Toronto Villa]

We are the very definition of becoming Everton. We will have ridiculously bland performances mixed in with some great and shit ones. In time we'll be solid enough rarely to worry about going down or consistently challenging for much. Then once in a blue moon we'll surprise everyone and win something or at least come close just to remind the fans that we are worth following and pinning our hopes to.

TV, I think Everton have been consistently sniffing around 6th place for a decade so are very different to us.

I agree they have not been a scintillating team to watch for most of that time but they make life difficult for opponents and have made Goodison a hard place to get a result. No idea if they were dreary in Moyes' first couple of seasons though....

Their home form has certainly been their backbone and it is something we need to correct. We are way too easy on the opposition at Villa Park and I just don't get why. The point about Everton is that in amongst those league finishes there were always patches of poor or highly inconsistent form. They've been in the bottom three at Christmas, they've finished seasons strongly enough to win the league had the first half been half decent. It's why in that time they failed to win anything because something went wrong. But in terms of a model then we need to become resolute first and especially getting something when playing poorly. We are doing that now at a cost. Lambert has always advocated attacking football but even he saw last season's football was going to have to change for us to survive. This, now is the in between stage of what was and what hopefully will be better football to come.

[treeve1]

There's no argument here, we are a fu*in million miles behind Everton and may as well be in a different league. They are not our competition any more.

Look at the last six games, you can see some successes but equally some extreme worry too.
Hull 0-0
Spurs 0-2
Everton 0-2
West ham 0-0
Cardiff 2-0
Wbrom 2-2
Sund 0-0

Great we've managed four clean sheets in 7 - Very good. Only scored in two, fu*kin dreadful. This time last year we were -12 diff  and only won two. This year a bit better. So why do I feel so numb still after today's dreadful rubbish despite the clear stats progress.

[Dave Clark Five]

We have had some dull periods but usually when there has been some hope of getting back into the top echelons. At the moment, I keep wondering how we can stay in the Premier League. We are poor. The top sides are good. Those at the bottom are dire. Are the divisions below worse than us?

[pauliewalnuts]

We have had some dull periods but usually when there has been some hope of getting back into the top echelons. At the moment, I keep wondering how we can stay in the Premier League. We are poor. The top sides are good. Those at the bottom are dire. Are the divisions below worse than us?

We're 10th at the moment, so on the evidence so far this season, there are plenty of sides worse than us.

We are capable of being absolutely shit - which is exactly how we've been for at least three years now - but we are nothing like one of the worst sides in the league.

For starters, though we frequently look about as creative as Liam Gallagher trying to come up with some lyrics, we have at least become more resilient at the back. If we were as creatively void as we are now plus as shit at the back as we were last season, then we probably would be in the relegation scrap.

We are currently 10th, one place behind Tottenham, and ahead of our Brazil 1970 near neighbours.

Our inability to keep the ball, pass it, or create many chances, combined with our misfiring best player and our several players who have regressed after a tough first season - all these things are very worrying, but to read some of the comments, you'd think we were in the relegation places.