“Saunders Heroes” has set an overlapping time frame which for him capsulates boredom. 2006 to present, with overlap of 2012-present. To avoid confusion, these are opinions based on seeing the games rather than reading propaganda, just in case there is confusion over the providence of my nonsensical opinion. These are just a few things that strike me as being anything other than dull;In that time I have seen us win an away game in Europe in a full competition. I have seen us win away in the preliminary rounds, but my European away day following started in Madrid and in all that time, I have not seen us win an away game. Plenty of draws and enough defeats. I found that exciting.* We competed at the right end of the table for three of those four years.* We challenged for trophies, albeit fleetingly.* We have been witness to the most bizarre and muddled management of succession possibly in the clubs history as we lurched from Houllier to McLeish. * We seriously diced with relegation on two occasions and managed to pull clear before the end on a third to finish a flattering 9th.* With a 12 month absence, we have become a very good away side and are more than capable of going anywhere in the country and beating anybody. * We have a manager who is a reckless gambler, offering unpredictable line-ups, formations.I don’t think we’re dull. I find a genuine pleasure in watching this Aston Villa side and have only ever been unfortunate enough to question my belief coming back from a Norwich defeat under McLiesh. I thought we were incredibly boring under Gregory. I think the FA Cup final typified the era and was one of the greatest disappointments of recent times, that all we could summon after nearly 50 years of waiting was that tedious performance? Would that team beat this one? Probably, but it would be a tedious affair.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on November 20, 2013, 05:54:37 PMI think (bunny ears)Ads(bunny ears) should write for the OS. They could do with another "everything's smashing" outlet on there. By which measure, you should get a gig filling in for Franksy.
I think (bunny ears)Ads(bunny ears) should write for the OS. They could do with another "everything's smashing" outlet on there.
Quote from: royvilla949 on November 20, 2013, 05:43:09 PMQuote from: eastie on November 20, 2013, 04:32:25 PMInteresting to note you say you thought lamberts reign has been very exciting in the match thread but now it's only exciting ?Unpredictable would best describe it , with high and lows along the way but far from very exciting - indeed some of the football especially at home has been turgid in the extreme ., whilst on our day we can be extremely good to watch . Are we boring - sometimesAre we exciting- sometimes .Given the choice of top 6 and Gregory type football or what we have seen under lambert I would take the 1-0 wins and top 6 personally.i will second thatI think I'm the opposite (if I'm understanding you correctly). I'd prefer that lambert (or whoever) tries a different approach that *might* help us leap from also rans to a genuine title contenders rather than the Gregory approach (see also MON and TSM) of spunking lots of money on established players knowing that there is a ceiling to what can be achieved.As part of Lambert's philosophy there is bound to be a degree of chaos involved as he's choosing the harder route/option but the rewards are potentially much greater.
Quote from: eastie on November 20, 2013, 04:32:25 PMInteresting to note you say you thought lamberts reign has been very exciting in the match thread but now it's only exciting ?Unpredictable would best describe it , with high and lows along the way but far from very exciting - indeed some of the football especially at home has been turgid in the extreme ., whilst on our day we can be extremely good to watch . Are we boring - sometimesAre we exciting- sometimes .Given the choice of top 6 and Gregory type football or what we have seen under lambert I would take the 1-0 wins and top 6 personally.i will second that
Interesting to note you say you thought lamberts reign has been very exciting in the match thread but now it's only exciting ?Unpredictable would best describe it , with high and lows along the way but far from very exciting - indeed some of the football especially at home has been turgid in the extreme ., whilst on our day we can be extremely good to watch . Are we boring - sometimesAre we exciting- sometimes .Given the choice of top 6 and Gregory type football or what we have seen under lambert I would take the 1-0 wins and top 6 personally.
Quote from: Ads on November 20, 2013, 05:51:45 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes Just because I'm not happy with the Villa now doesn't mean I've never been happy with us before or again in the future. I'm not a nodding dog, and if I'm unhappy with Villa I'll let it be known. ... and just because its not always raining in my world does not make me a mouthpiece, sprouting nonsensical opinion or incapable of independent thought. Neither does being a misery arse equate to being a sage. Just because I disagreed with a poster on here who claimed this Villa team is exciting doesn't mean that it's always raining in my world. And no need for the personal insult either.
Quote from: saunders_heroes Just because I'm not happy with the Villa now doesn't mean I've never been happy with us before or again in the future. I'm not a nodding dog, and if I'm unhappy with Villa I'll let it be known. ... and just because its not always raining in my world does not make me a mouthpiece, sprouting nonsensical opinion or incapable of independent thought. Neither does being a misery arse equate to being a sage.
Just because I'm not happy with the Villa now doesn't mean I've never been happy with us before or again in the future. I'm not a nodding dog, and if I'm unhappy with Villa I'll let it be known.
Quote from: Ads on November 20, 2013, 05:50:11 PMSaunders Heroes has set an overlapping time frame which for him capsulates boredom. 2006 to present, with overlap of 2012-present. To avoid confusion, these are opinions based on seeing the games rather than reading propaganda, just in case there is confusion over the providence of my nonsensical opinion. These are just a few things that strike me as being anything other than dull;In that time I have seen us win an away game in Europe in a full competition. I have seen us win away in the preliminary rounds, but my European away day following started in Madrid and in all that time, I have not seen us win an away game. Plenty of draws and enough defeats. I found that exciting.* We competed at the right end of the table for three of those four years.* We challenged for trophies, albeit fleetingly.* We have been witness to the most bizarre and muddled management of succession possibly in the clubs history as we lurched from Houllier to McLeish. * We seriously diced with relegation on two occasions and managed to pull clear before the end on a third to finish a flattering 9th.* With a 12 month absence, we have become a very good away side and are more than capable of going anywhere in the country and beating anybody. * We have a manager who is a reckless gambler, offering unpredictable line-ups, formations.I dont think were dull. I find a genuine pleasure in watching this Aston Villa side and have only ever been unfortunate enough to question my belief coming back from a Norwich defeat under McLiesh. I thought we were incredibly boring under Gregory. I think the FA Cup final typified the era and was one of the greatest disappointments of recent times, that all we could summon after nearly 50 years of waiting was that tedious performance? Would that team beat this one? Probably, but it would be a tedious affair. So I take it you have been a follower since the mid 90s ads? The reason i ask is that maybe you find the football exciting in comparison to the likes of Gregory, o Leary, Mcleish etc whereas some older fans may be thinking of exciting as being the eras of the 70s and 80s during which we played some top top football at times - never to be forgotten.
Saunders Heroes has set an overlapping time frame which for him capsulates boredom. 2006 to present, with overlap of 2012-present. To avoid confusion, these are opinions based on seeing the games rather than reading propaganda, just in case there is confusion over the providence of my nonsensical opinion. These are just a few things that strike me as being anything other than dull;In that time I have seen us win an away game in Europe in a full competition. I have seen us win away in the preliminary rounds, but my European away day following started in Madrid and in all that time, I have not seen us win an away game. Plenty of draws and enough defeats. I found that exciting.* We competed at the right end of the table for three of those four years.* We challenged for trophies, albeit fleetingly.* We have been witness to the most bizarre and muddled management of succession possibly in the clubs history as we lurched from Houllier to McLeish. * We seriously diced with relegation on two occasions and managed to pull clear before the end on a third to finish a flattering 9th.* With a 12 month absence, we have become a very good away side and are more than capable of going anywhere in the country and beating anybody. * We have a manager who is a reckless gambler, offering unpredictable line-ups, formations.I dont think were dull. I find a genuine pleasure in watching this Aston Villa side and have only ever been unfortunate enough to question my belief coming back from a Norwich defeat under McLiesh. I thought we were incredibly boring under Gregory. I think the FA Cup final typified the era and was one of the greatest disappointments of recent times, that all we could summon after nearly 50 years of waiting was that tedious performance? Would that team beat this one? Probably, but it would be a tedious affair.
I really enjoy following the Villa. It routinely makes me angry, but I am not bored by it. You think I am talking nonsense and a talking shop like the website, I don't think that has anything to do with whether the Villa are boring.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on November 20, 2013, 05:56:35 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on November 20, 2013, 05:54:37 PMI think (bunny ears)Ads(bunny ears) should write for the OS. They could do with another "everything's smashing" outlet on there. By which measure, you should get a gig filling in for Franksy.What's that supposed to mean?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on November 20, 2013, 05:57:05 PMQuote from: Ads on November 20, 2013, 05:51:45 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes Just because I'm not happy with the Villa now doesn't mean I've never been happy with us before or again in the future. I'm not a nodding dog, and if I'm unhappy with Villa I'll let it be known. ... and just because its not always raining in my world does not make me a mouthpiece, sprouting nonsensical opinion or incapable of independent thought. Neither does being a misery arse equate to being a sage. Just because I disagreed with a poster on here who claimed this Villa team is exciting doesn't mean that it's always raining in my world. And no need for the personal insult either. Sorry, I should have prefixed it with "no offence" as you did, before going on to cause offence.
Quote from: eastie on November 20, 2013, 05:58:24 PMQuote from: Ads on November 20, 2013, 05:50:11 PMSaunders Heroes has set an overlapping time frame which for him capsulates boredom. 2006 to present, with overlap of 2012-present. To avoid confusion, these are opinions based on seeing the games rather than reading propaganda, just in case there is confusion over the providence of my nonsensical opinion. These are just a few things that strike me as being anything other than dull;In that time I have seen us win an away game in Europe in a full competition. I have seen us win away in the preliminary rounds, but my European away day following started in Madrid and in all that time, I have not seen us win an away game. Plenty of draws and enough defeats. I found that exciting.* We competed at the right end of the table for three of those four years.* We challenged for trophies, albeit fleetingly.* We have been witness to the most bizarre and muddled management of succession possibly in the clubs history as we lurched from Houllier to McLeish. * We seriously diced with relegation on two occasions and managed to pull clear before the end on a third to finish a flattering 9th.* With a 12 month absence, we have become a very good away side and are more than capable of going anywhere in the country and beating anybody. * We have a manager who is a reckless gambler, offering unpredictable line-ups, formations.I dont think were dull. I find a genuine pleasure in watching this Aston Villa side and have only ever been unfortunate enough to question my belief coming back from a Norwich defeat under McLiesh. I thought we were incredibly boring under Gregory. I think the FA Cup final typified the era and was one of the greatest disappointments of recent times, that all we could summon after nearly 50 years of waiting was that tedious performance? Would that team beat this one? Probably, but it would be a tedious affair. So I take it you have been a follower since the mid 90s ads? The reason i ask is that maybe you find the football exciting in comparison to the likes of Gregory, o Leary, Mcleish etc whereas some older fans may be thinking of exciting as being the eras of the 70s and 80s during which we played some top top football at times - never to be forgotten.I am 27 years old and have been following the Villa for 23 years and had a season ticket for 21 of those years.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on November 20, 2013, 06:00:12 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on November 20, 2013, 05:56:35 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on November 20, 2013, 05:54:37 PMI think (bunny ears)Ads(bunny ears) should write for the OS. They could do with another "everything's smashing" outlet on there. By which measure, you should get a gig filling in for Franksy.What's that supposed to mean?It means that if you're going to paint him in terms of being so optimistic he should be writing for the OS (with that being the height of fluffy optimism), on the basis that he's the optimistic type, I am suggesting you should get yourself a gig doing Franksy's job on WM (the height of doomishness), what with you being on the miserablist side I am basically suggesting that if you're going to stick a label on him based on an exaggeration of his standpoint, maybe you should expect people to do the same to you, based on yours.Which is what I just did. And I bet you like it about as much as he did.
Quote from: Dante Lavelli on November 20, 2013, 05:52:28 PMQuote from: royvilla949 on November 20, 2013, 05:43:09 PMQuote from: eastie on November 20, 2013, 04:32:25 PMInteresting to note you say you thought lamberts reign has been very exciting in the match thread but now it's only exciting ?Unpredictable would best describe it , with high and lows along the way but far from very exciting - indeed some of the football especially at home has been turgid in the extreme ., whilst on our day we can be extremely good to watch . Are we boring - sometimesAre we exciting- sometimes .Given the choice of top 6 and Gregory type football or what we have seen under lambert I would take the 1-0 wins and top 6 personally.i will second thatI think I'm the opposite (if I'm understanding you correctly). I'd prefer that lambert (or whoever) tries a different approach that *might* help us leap from also rans to a genuine title contenders rather than the Gregory approach (see also MON and TSM) of spunking lots of money on established players knowing that there is a ceiling to what can be achieved.As part of Lambert's philosophy there is bound to be a degree of chaos involved as he's choosing the harder route/option but the rewards are potentially much greater.There is no might about it for me - not a chance in hell of lambert turning us into title contenders!Possibly in time he may have us competing for top 6 but title contenders - no .
Quote from: saunders_heroes on November 20, 2013, 06:00:12 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on November 20, 2013, 05:56:35 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on November 20, 2013, 05:54:37 PMI think (bunny ears)Ads(bunny ears) should write for the OS. They could do with another "everything's smashing" outlet on there. By which measure, you should get a gig filling in for Franksy.What's that supposed to mean?Who cares?! Apologies for being rude but lets not side track a good thread by getting personal/taking it off topic.