Charles N'zogbia update

[Matt Collins]

Lambert didn't put N'Zogbia in the bomb squad, nor drive him out for Tonev. N'Zogbia snapped his Achilles tendon in the summer. Lambert's preference didn't come into it.

So why was the number 10 shirt taken from him, and he's bow got 36 or whatever it is?

[silhillvilla]

Why Lambert put him in the bomb squad and replaced him with tonev i will never know. 

I'd imagine it was because of his salary.  Tonev's probably being paid a 10th of what NZog is on.

Guess you get what you pay for.

[Merv]

Lambert didn't put N'Zogbia in the bomb squad, nor drive him out for Tonev. N'Zogbia snapped his Achilles tendon in the summer. Lambert's preference didn't come into it.

So why was the number 10 shirt taken from him, and he's bow got 36 or whatever it is?

At a guess, because he was unlikely to play for the majority of the season.

[Clampy]

Why Lambert put him in the bomb squad and replaced him with tonev i will never know. 

I'd imagine it was because of his salary.  Tonev's probably being paid a 10th of what NZog is on.

Guess you get what you pay for.

You mean the £10m we paid for him in the first place?

[Mister E]

The N'zogbia i've seen for us so far has scored a couple of good free kicks but also had an annoying habit of running into two or three players and losing the ball. I can't think of too many goal scoring chances he set up either. He's not been worth what we paid for him so far.

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Completely agree, although I'd rather have a £9million player not providing value for money over a £2.5m player not providing value for money in Tonev!

Slightly bizarre comparison, but neither of the players will ensure our safety this season. N'Zog is vastly overrated; Tonev doesn't look up to it.

Why bizarre?  They both play in either a wide or central attacking role. If N'zogbia is to get fit and force his way back into Lambert's plans it's Tonev's place in the current squad that I would imagine to be most under threat from him.

I guess it was the double use of 'not' - sorry, I probbly misunderstood what you meant.

[Davey B]

Don't know whether it's made up bollox by the paper, but we (SAFC) are being linked with a move for N'zogbia!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/10542867/Sunderland-manager-Gus-Poyet-targets-Charles-NZogbia-and-others-in-January-transfer-window.html

Apparently we are in negotiations with Brighton for Liam Bridcutt (a DM) and Will Buckley who is a winger, so a move for Charlie, (if it's correct) might depend on the success/outcome of the Brighton discussions.

What do you guys think, have you heard anything down there? 

[Clampy]

Don't know whether it's made up bollox by the paper, but we (SAFC) are being linked with a move for N'zogbia!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/10542867/Sunderland-manager-Gus-Poyet-targets-Charles-NZogbia-and-others-in-January-transfer-window.html

Apparently we are in negotiations with Brighton for Liam Bridcutt (a DM) and Will Buckley who is a winger, so a move for Charlie, (if it's correct) might depend on the success/outcome of the Brighton discussions.

What do you guys think, have you heard anything down there? 

He's injured at the moment and being an ex-newcastle player, would that go down well anyway?

[Davey B]

Don't know whether it's made up bollox by the paper, but we (SAFC) are being linked with a move for N'zogbia!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/10542867/Sunderland-manager-Gus-Poyet-targets-Charles-NZogbia-and-others-in-January-transfer-window.html

Apparently we are in negotiations with Brighton for Liam Bridcutt (a DM) and Will Buckley who is a winger, so a move for Charlie, (if it's correct) might depend on the success/outcome of the Brighton discussions.

What do you guys think, have you heard anything down there? 

He's injured at the moment and being an ex-newcastle player, would that go down well anyway?

Hi Clampy,

The ex-Newcastle stuff is media inspired tripe tbh. There is a little bit of it amongst a small minded minority, but it's painted in the press at times, (mainly due to fat pastie face now at Hull) to be a real mountain of a mole hill. The statue outside the SOL is of our FA Cup winning manager Bob Stokoe, who is rightly revered up here. Bob Stokoe, a born and bred Newcastle fan, i think he may have even played for them but would have to check. The media seem to conveniently overlook that little bit of information whenever the "Newcastle / Geordie Roots" are referenced. I never thought bad of Bruce until he started with this utter rubbish, and just look at how some of his absolute bullshit has stuck! Geniunelly mate, the majority couldn't give a flying fig if a player / manager came from timbucktoo as long as he's giving his all for the cause.

Back to CNZ though, I know we were interested in him when he first signed for you, think it was Bruce actually at the time, but i was surprised to read that Poyet could be interested. Has he shone while he's been at Villa? He's not a name i've heard mentioned much tbh, but his talent is undoubted. Just interested in whether you guys had heard anything or whether it's just the usual transfer time paper filling made up speculation.

atb for the New Year mate,

Davey

[Clampy]

Alright Davey

Like I said he's injured at the moment so at a guess I'd say it's just idle speculation. He's been ok without being great. Some half decent games, a couple of goals but not a lot else. The talent is there, there's no question about that but I think we all expected a lot more from him considering what we paid.

Have a great new year yourself (apart from tomorrow).

[eastie]

Don't know whether it's made up bollox by the paper, but we (SAFC) are being linked with a move for N'zogbia!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/10542867/Sunderland-manager-Gus-Poyet-targets-Charles-NZogbia-and-others-in-January-transfer-window.html

Apparently we are in negotiations with Brighton for Liam Bridcutt (a DM) and Will Buckley who is a winger, so a move for Charlie, (if it's correct) might depend on the success/outcome of the Brighton discussions.

What do you guys think, have you heard anything down there? 

Its a load of bollocks davey, he's not expected to play again till next season and a long way off a return.

[Davey B]

Alright Davey

Like I said he's injured at the moment so at a guess I'd say it's just idle speculation. He's been ok without being great. Some half decent games, a couple of goals but not a lot else. The talent is there, there's no question about that but I think we all expected a lot more from him considering what we paid.

Have a great new year yourself (apart from tomorrow).

Cheers mate, properly laughed at the (apart from tomorrow) bit!   

Shame you couldn't make it mate, i'd have popped around to the away end to say hello and share a pint!

atb

Davey

[Davey B]

Don't know whether it's made up bollox by the paper, but we (SAFC) are being linked with a move for N'zogbia!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/10542867/Sunderland-manager-Gus-Poyet-targets-Charles-NZogbia-and-others-in-January-transfer-window.html

Apparently we are in negotiations with Brighton for Liam Bridcutt (a DM) and Will Buckley who is a winger, so a move for Charlie, (if it's correct) might depend on the success/outcome of the Brighton discussions.

What do you guys think, have you heard anything down there? 

Its a load of bollocks davey, he's not expected to play again till next season and a long way off a return.

Cheers Eastie! I was thinking as much tbh. The wage structure here affected our chances last time and i doubt whether they'll break the bank for him now after not doing it when we had the opportunity last time! 

[paul_e]

The injury thing is a funny one, 9-12months is the normal recovery so if it's closer to the former he could be available by march but I'm not sure if anyone would buy him at this point.  I guess if he's back in light training by the middle of the month it might be possible but it's a really bad injury (it'd have ended his career 25 years ago) so I guess theat report is a journalist seeing him out of the side and not featuring at all and not realising just how badly injured he was before making the link.

As a player he's a lot like Sessegnon was for you, he can be special in the odd game but the rest of the time he looks disinterested and nothing works for him.  I'm not really sure where your problems are at the minute as I haven't seen many comments from the in-laws recently and I don't really watch many premier league games when we aren't playing so no idea if he'd be worth the risk for you.

[Ron Manager]

Don't know whether it's made up bollox by the paper, but we (SAFC) are being linked with a move for N'zogbia!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/10542867/Sunderland-manager-Gus-Poyet-targets-Charles-NZogbia-and-others-in-January-transfer-window.html

Apparently we are in negotiations with Brighton for Liam Bridcutt (a DM) and Will Buckley who is a winger, so a move for Charlie, (if it's correct) might depend on the success/outcome of the Brighton discussions.

What do you guys think, have you heard anything down there? 

Its a load of bollocks davey, he's not expected to play again till next season and a long way off a return.

Cheers Eastie! I was thinking as much tbh. The wage structure here affected our chances last time and i doubt whether they'll break the bank for him now after not doing it when we had the opportunity last time! 

Davey  O'Neills out, Wes Brown's out, even Cuellar's out. Does this mean a late call up for Charlie Hurley?

[Davey B]

The injury thing is a funny one, 9-12months is the normal recovery so if it's closer to the former he could be available by march but I'm not sure if anyone would buy him at this point.  I guess if he's back in light training by the middle of the month it might be possible but it's a really bad injury (it'd have ended his career 25 years ago) so I guess theat report is a journalist seeing him out of the side and not featuring at all and not realising just how badly injured he was before making the link.

As a player he's a lot like Sessegnon was for you, he can be special in the odd game but the rest of the time he looks disinterested and nothing works for him.  I'm not really sure where your problems are at the minute as I haven't seen many comments from the in-laws recently and I don't really watch many premier league games when we aren't playing so no idea if he'd be worth the risk for you.

  Our problems are every position Paul, seriously, IT REALLY IS THAT BAD! We have downgraded player quality far too much, and reached the bottom of the barrel manager wise with Di Canio. Cheers for the response, i'm thinking this is media bollox too as nobody Villa side seems to have heard anything, plus the long term injury. See what the summer brings, and if Poyet makes a move then!